do you guys remember how many used to play druid in classic? in 40 man raid there was barely 2 druids while in sod its one of the most played class and especially in pvp.
overtuned much ?
meanwhile, simultaneously, there’s been a noticeable dip in the shaman playerbase numbers.
its almost like there’s a huge crowd of people that literally just FOTM current OP class which is peak cringe tbh.
i really can’t put myself in the mindset of just playing whatever is hottest “right now”.
i’ve always played shaman even at its weakest point (which is vanilla enhancement) and i still will be even if its not on top anymore.
to be honest, it kind of bothered me that it was as strong as it was for so long…
because, man, the amount of people who called me a FOTM player just because my favorite class happened to be FOTM…
its kind of a relief, but having braindead ele shaman no-totem trogs who use spirit of the alpha over decoy totem in pvp replaced by starfall/surge mashing boomies who WILL NOT SHAPESHIFT AT ANY COST is not exactly what i would classify as an improvement to the meta…
oh well.
There is also a surge of warlock players it seems. Now that we finally are on top again first time since gnomeregan fire destro supremacy
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Can you really blame the people tho?
Who on their right mind wants to play a class that underperforms in both pve and pvp.
It’s like you are asking for extra difficulty mode without additional rewards.
If anyone is to blame is the blizzard team that does the balancing between the classes.
But it is, since it’s open for both factions, reducing faction disbalance.
Also, thank you for finally admitting Shaman was OP (since it was FOTM). This is something you didn’t have the decency to do for months, so I see it as a welcomed change.
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really funny when his lies catch up with him, most disingenuous poster on the SoD forums imho.
Balance and Shockadin will get nerfed by Naxx, only that by that point something else will be the FotM Class…
Tho i really will enjoy how they deal with Shockadin in particular, since that particular spec cannot be balanced at all. It’s still the worst DPS spec while being top 3 in PvP currently
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Until jazz is too late
And every pala jumped on the Fotm shockadin pvp spec, hypocryte much lmao
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More bad players complaining about op specs.
Nerfs will not make any of you any better. You will just move on to the next thing. And when your class is the only one op ? You will still complain and think you are losing because X and Y are more op.
p.s. Blizzard can nerf w/o they want, its a near dead game mode with a fully dead PvP scene.
I played Exodin/Shockadin since P2 tho…
No Idea how that makes me a hypocrite?
Currently i play Ret, since Shockadin is unplayable in PvE
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lowiq ppl are often metaslave , look how no one play warlock cuz of it’s terrible support design 
And a lot of ppl played ele since p2. But im sure you gona claim that was Fotm already in p2 
I’d agree with that notion. Dude gatekept the whole forum from rationally talking about how Shammy were OP and how that cause a faction imbalance in PvP. At least the powerful classes are on both factions now.
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Wait a min… are u not the guy that QQ’s every time I add Shamans to my list of op classes that need a nerf ? xD
to clarify: Enhancement was OP in phase 2 (and only phase 2) and Elemental was OP in phase 3 (and only phase 3).
the idea that “shaman was broken for 4 phases straight” is a lie that people still perpetuate when people such as myself point out that their class is OP.
boomies and paladin players have been doing this for a month now.
you point out that starfall aoe spell pushback+stun and tons of damage is over the top, they go “BuT ShAMaN wAs BrOEkn FOr 9 yEarS”
quit moving the goalpost.
You accused me of jumping the bandwagon and I pointed out that i played Holy DPS since P2 - i played Balance druid in P1/2 btw and it was ridiculous strong back then, too.
I also played shaman in P3, because i wanted to see just how strong it was while almost every shaman on the Forums went “Ahktually it’s super weak”
Bottom line is, we’re all in this together and everyone loses with FotM OP specs, blizzard ought to balance for PvP instead of PvE imho.
I bet you can clear BWL in greens, it’s not that hard content…
Shaman has been borderline broken for 4 phases… 2-3-4-5 to say Ele and tank hybrid isn’t strong now is a flat out lie, flame shock pad damage is stupid and has been since burn introduction…
“Just dispel it” 4head
34 casts of flame shock for 206 applications.
53% of entire damage breakdown is 1ability
Included boomie/hunter in screenshot dmg breakdown too for comparison. But the dmg profile for ele isn’t that much more crazy than boomie/hunter in pvp even still after nerfs lol, cannot say boomie is broken and not be able to see ele isn’t that far behind it even after all the changes.
Isn’t me just constantly poking at shamans either just stating that there is some truth behind the shamans broken for 4 phases when the class is still kinda obnoxious now either as tank hybrid or full ele. It’s really only pure enhance that isn’t that great in pvp right now. But most melee are getting railed by ranged right now so 
Trying to heal through this damage with 2.5sec cast is a painful experience.
Tbf Boomies have been abusive since P2, kinda unavoidable with how they’re “designing” SoD. Same deal with Shadow Priests.
Casters don’t scale as well with world buffs as melee do, so in order to bring the two into the same ballpark, casters have to deal more baseline damage.
Losing 50-70% of your HP to a Starfire crit (or 100% of your HP to Void Plague + SW:P back in P2/P3) was just kinda inevitable.
Boomies were broken in phase 1 with the 42 yard range.
Shamans were broken for 4 phases, where in later phase they were just gods. As if Metzen came back to Blizzard and Aggrend had to please daddy green Jesus!
Hunters made people cry with ranged entrapment slow spam.
Paladin healers were bonkers at start of P4 and were nerfed into their place, then overnerfed with T1 6 set thing.
Boomies are doing today A LOT of damage and they have the druid survivability toolkit on top of damage, but to really get deleted by a boomie, you gotta let it hardcast. That’s a tactics issue.
And on top, boomies are present on both factions so it doesn’t bring with itself the insane disabalance that Shaman did for 4 phases.
Relax, it’s not so dire, you don’t have to post on the forum every time you get deleted with a Starfire crit
let’s hope pal/hunt get a giganerf before they nerf druid/sham tho.