I hope some casual players get these, few solves and boom! sword!
Give em a nice epic to enjoy later when max lvl
Those who have spent every day 12+ hours since launch it might be a good life lesson if they never find anything at all, they seem to lack any form of self control, I would say some are addicted - medically not jokingly.
If this is not having any negative affect on your normal life then I’m not sure what to say.
There used to be a little note when logging in , not sure if its still there. says something like:
“Take everything in moderation…even world of warcraft”
The problem is not that people aren’t accustomed to very rare grinds. The problem is that this what never meant to be a very rare grind. It seems that the drop chances have been mispresented and are very different to original cata. I saw people saying that the rarest epic is a 1% chance, and the most common is a 4% chance. For reference, after 70 solves at 1% chance you have a 50% chance to have found the epic. Some people are at 1000 solves, which gives you more than a 99% chance to have found a 1% drop. This thing is bugged.
People like you are the reason wow does not gain any more players. you are prob trash yourself , your Green haired troll character does fit your words so perfectly
Here is a wild thought… Why dont you guys join a guild? There are all types of guild and one could fit your type and time schedule. That will save you the “i need high ilvl to join RDF HCs” or a trade posted pug. Just fly with few guildies at the entrance of the dungeon and do a HC where ilvl plays no part. Then in raids they wont care if you are 1ilvl lower because you miss a sword or a trinket, kill a boss and get equal or better.
You do not have to do the grind of archaeology. You can choose not to. But if you go for it then be prepared for the grind.
Dont take the % posted in wowhead or other pages and such. They are based on the numbers of kills and how many droped from all the realms etc. someone got something in 99 runs and someone got it in 1 run, doesnt make something 50% chance to drop. 1% is always 1%. Even if you do it once or 100 times, the next try will still have 1% chance to get it. doing it 2 times doesnt make it 2% and so on. That was added later in legion or something.
If someone gets something in 99 runs and someone gets it in 1 run that makes it a 2% chance to drop. Thats it. There is no debate involved here. Thats how reality works.
Trying something once at 1% chance means you have a 1% chance to be succesful. Trying it twice means you have a 1.99% chance to have been succesfull. Thats how this works.
if the probability of success is 0.01 (1% chance), then the chance of failure is 0.99. The chance of failing 70 times in a row is 0.99 to the power of 70 which equals 0.494, or 49.4%. That means you have a 50.6% chance of succeeding at least once after 70 attempts.
Its important to remember that this doesnt mean you have a 1 in 2 chance of success on your 69th attempt. It just means that after 70 attempts, 50% of people have the item, and 50% do not.
It’s bad design that needs to be changed, If i wanted bad design i would be playing Classic Era.
I have HUNDREDS of solves, Some people have thousands, That is plenty of time put in grinding.
But you dont have to do the farm. You dont even need the weapon. Is good for casuals who will only do HC dungeons but even for that again is not needed. I dont get some people’s point.
Because you are lazy to farm something you dont actually need if you are in a semi decent guild, you want to change the whole system? A system that was even added 20 days earlier to give even more time to do it.
There are so many solutions to the reasons many posted why they “NEED” the 359 from archaeology because of the ilvl.
Joining a guild will solve it.
You dont like guilds? Just make your own groups without ilvl requirements.
Demanding or trying to extort your way to an item is the very definition of a leech.
Just let those who actually like the game even with its faults, play it. Is changed enough already since classic came out to include lazy people and is turning into an abomination of what it used to be. There are private servers or even retail who have a vendor for everything. Just go there already.
This is not how percentages work. It is not 1% stacking, it is always 1%. And I can tell you the drop rates were just as bad in original Cata. I did archealogy quite a lot throughout the whole expansion in original Cata, and I never saw either Jin’rokh or Crawling Claw. I got every other archealogy rare, but some of them, like the bug mount and Tyrande’s Doll took very long time.
I sort of agree, it’s up to the player to have self control and stop doing something that has little reward vs time spent and basically a black hole that sucks in fun…but
I’m not sure how innocent this is, I think it was made to mimic gambling / casino type games, to be as much of a time sink as possible and give little reward in the process and it becomes a form of addiction to some.
There’s also plenty of people that play wow with learning difficulties / disabilities / adhd etc …this must be a nightmare for them
I’m honestly shocked at the time people have put into it, I know some folk take time of work etc when an expansion comes out but people are admitting spending 12+ hours every single day on this, I feel bad for them
