Alliance, do you guys even enjoy this game?

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14 years of WoW I’ve been solely Horde and thought I’d just go Alliance for a change sake.
Levelling up, I noticed that Alliance are vastly different than the Horde players.

I levelled up a character on Horde that’s currently level 30, so to speak, I did delve myself into two sides, and I can tell the difference between the two factions.

To keep a long story short, Alliance players don’t seem to enjoy this video game, very much. A slight, minor inconvenience already makes the Alliance player to give up.

Somehow getting slightly behind in a battleground? → better lose fast and requeue!
Players taking 5 mins to get to a dungeon? → better leave party and find another group where 4 other players are possibly instantly there, else releave and try again!
Don’t have meta classes in the raid? Better leave group and find one that actually gives a damn about my parse?!

Hang on a minute, now you might say Rektem… It can’t be that bad, right? The Horde must’ve gotten a bad side aswell?

Well…

It took me only 1 BFD group to accept my badly geared warrior, we had a Shaman tank the bosses, with a mage healing, no one cared, no one gave a damn. We all made the best out of it. We even had an S priest! We just gathered 10 people up, everyone was talking tactics in the chat, you know how many people chat on Alliance side? None, zero.

So then a few weeks later, I go back to my Alliance, I make my way from Southshore through Alterac Mountains to SM, on the way there I decide to tank and make my group, I’m only 5 minutes away from the place.
Oh hang on, lads I got ganked by Horde, might want to give some assistance?
Everyone left the group in silence…

That’s literally the Alliance mentality, they all follow their precious guides, they all follow the meta game, and when the slightest bit of inconvenience follows? They give up. They instantly drop everything they were doing, and they make their way. They disappear.

It actually makes me mad how these people play the game. I did another run on BFD on my Horde, for the experience boost this time, and guess what, I got ganked outside of BFD. Even though we were undermanned, underlevelled, we still went outside of the raid with all of us and killed the Alliance that were ganking, or atleast chased them off. Despite them having 2 more level 40’s than us. But then again, we gave them just a slight minor inconvenience and as I explained, Alliance players scatter and fall apart like a house of cards when you just as slightly lay one blow on them like a candle wittering out.

Alliance players, I salute you, for making me go back to Horde. Absolutely the worst anti social, anti MMORPG experience I have ever experienced. No wonder retail had to merge factions to give you guys a chance at doing something.

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  1. and 2) happen in both side. The farthest you are from the dungeons, the more likely you’ll get kicked because theses day you can buy a summon to get teleported around everywhere instead of flying for 50mn. Not buying a summon and wasting 4 people time, disrespect hard. If you can’t afford a summon (lol), then move closer to the dungeon before joining a group.

  2. Lot of people (mine included) don’t want to raid with subpar comp. I prefer to lose an ID than playing with subpar comp. There’s always another group. That also usually mean raid leader are clueless (why would you raid without a windfury for example ? because you can’t find a Feral ? then don’t pick melee class instead of making weird raid). In Horde side, everything is easy mode. You have godtier Shaman tank, you have totems that provide everything you need and you don’t need to find a Feral Druid. On Alliance side, good luck.

Yes, most Alliance player don’t care at all about PvP and will flee away the second anything isn’t in their control in open world. I think it’s because lot of them are PvE minmaxers and at that point they feel bad when they can’t accomplish their task. If they can’t, they move on.

But tbh, it happen to both side … when you are outnumbered or face organized groups, it’s very hard to do something in Vanilla, the game is to “basic” even if sometime you can make good move and return the situation.

You usually pick Horde for PvP racial (Orc, Undead), while Alliance are played for PvE racial (Human, Fear ward, …). I played Horde 4 years in Classic 2019, TBC, WOTLK. They are more aggressive and are less willing to give up it’s true, but it’s simply because they have more PvP player in general.

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on lavalash horde looses almost all BGs, every WSG i was in P1 was like: horde afk at GY for quick loose because there was no point defending against ally.

human racial for stealth detection is so handy to have agaisnt rogues and ferals in PvP. If horde wants it, he must be rogue and have talents in it. Hooman rogue:

  • racial
  • talents (or can use other useful talents)
  • bfd ring

paladins bubble, gnomes resistance,…

not to speak about: alliance having 3-4 raids for ashenvale events in P1 (in P2 they still have raids), horde having hardly 1.5 raid and in P2 0 raids.

There was a time about a month ago, when the population was 75% alliance.

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This has been an issue since vanilla, the horde racials heavily favoured them in pvp and most alliance players knew this, its not a new problem for SoD its just the way it was. You should have seen the forums back then, i lost count of how many complaints i read per day.

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Alliance is the meta faction so the worst type of players gravitate towards it. There’s plenty of good people on both factions, but a majority of the worst people will pick Alliance because it’s “better”.

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This is why id never roll ally on HC for example. Zooming fast as possible and slightest problem everyone roaches out.

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A lot of alliance players tend to be one of the below:

  • A pve player doing pvp to stay relevant for pve
  • An afker
  • A silent player
  • A child

My experience in BGs are often 25% afk from the start, 25% running around alone, and at best 50% trying to win.

AB can often lack callouts with people solo charging into defended stations.
5 People afking at stables “defending” the only base we have.

WSG always has a lack of flag runners with no shamans and no healers.
The one druid you might get does not want to run it since they are balance.

Once its clear that 50% of your group is not even try to win, while the horde pvp players have 80%+ trying to, it becomes an exercise in futility.

World pvp also tends towards being neutral and scared of pvp, even on pvp servers.

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Two decade long horde enjoyer here, just came in to say alliance has never changed, and never will. They will always be another scrub under my boot that gets demolished while they mire in my brutish aesthetics and superior skill

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You must go through a lot of vaseline.

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My experience:
Behaviour: horde on average seems more mature/respectful.

Pvp:
The top 10% of people on both sides are equally skilled but hordes skill drops slower than alliance so the next 10% are worse on alliance and it shows.

Only reason why i play alliance is paladin.

I would have grabbed a b-elf if i could (or a tauren)

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And then you meet edgy undead player

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If only we hadn’t had enforced faction balance on PvP realms in SoD where majority of meta slaves are playing that forced em to split even among factions.

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IDK playing this game since may 2005 and both factions have similar kind of players. Usually players prase their original faction they started playing in or have been playing the most during original Vanilla-Wrath.

In SoM I knew many Horde players from Wrath Classic, simply because Alliance was meta in PvE, while in Wrath orcish and trollis racials are OP for throughoutput. Same with HC PvE Faction + Light of Elune made majority, even long term Horde players, go for the Alliance.

SoD has it different, because we have enforced faction balance on PvP realms. You either picked the available faction or were late to participate in most active part of phase 1.

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this is so real.

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It does seem like it, especially regarding PvP. I am like that myself, play on RP-PvP for the community and lack of swaty pug groups, and I avoid wPvP like a plague.
I am just glad both “wpvp” events so far devolved into pure PvE experiences. Ashenvale with raid groups killing bosses and ignoring each other and now STV where I just join mage parties and run mindlessly toward the altar spamming AE for 2000 coins per event. Elune forbid I actually had to engage in serious PvP. When farming wsg rep in a premade I sometime had to fight for real (I think like 4 or 5 games where it was a premade weak enough so we didn’t give up but strong enough so they didnt either. Those games were the worst, so happy I am now exalted and will never have to do PvP again since AB can be done to exalted in STV and AV is a PvE battleground by definition.

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I, like many people, play both sides. I don’t think your arguments are valid really as so many do play both sides. Behind the Orc or Gnome is a sad fat human nerd at the end of the day.

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biggest mistake in your life

Better stay on Horde!

most of the Alliance Players (NOT EVERYONE) is the biggest garbage on Planet Earth, your description is accurate, i had the same experience on Classic Private server, i never will do the same Mistake again

and like Pshero said, Alliance players are not the gankers, they are the ones who get ganked

Look even at the Forum here, when someone makes a “cry” thread, especially when it´s about “eh this class counters me, it needs a nerf its op” these posts came most likely from alliance player

That´s not True

it´s most likely behind a cute looking Nightelf, or Bloodelf

and when it comes to Gnome, when i met a gnome, it was a pumper in reallife

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I wish we went Horde, but we did Horde in TBC Classic and some salty peabrain had already created the momentum for my cicrle of friends to play alliance. I want to be Horde, all the good rewards, all the good racials. FML I hate alliance.