Alliance Premade Solution

[Menzhinsky-everlook]

@Linaori-ragnaros

I mean, by that argument the addon never had to exist, as you can do this 100% without any addons involved The author most likely didn’t see value in spending time on it afterwards, which doesn’t mean it’s banned or broken, just not worth the alternative because it’s easy enough.

It’s exactly what the author said. But I guess you had no time to read the stuff you get linked.

Blizzard released a patch for WoW Classic today which removed the ability to determine the AV instance that “pops” for you when you queue for “First Available”. As expected, this throws a wrench into the works of addons like AVQ. It is now possible to queue up to 5 people simultaneously using the standard Blizzard AV UI, which is great news for the average player. I’m still investigating the best options to queue with more than that, but it doesn’t look like a “quick fix” is possible.

I really don’t know why they don’t teach reading on schools anymore.

[Linaori-ragnaros]

@Menzhinsky-everlook

Exactly as I thought. You ignored the facts - again.

I’ve been giving you facts, not my problem you don’t like them.

@Menzhinsky-everlook

Going epic bg with a premade isn’t an alternative to premade epic bg either, still you do it.

So the alternative I’m doing is not an alternative? Next time do a warmup before you stretch your brain this much.

@Menzhinsky-everlook

You said you wanted to fight other premades and wargames is exactly for that. And no, you don’t need to organize 80 people. You need to organize 40 as before.

You’ll need 2x40 people for this, so if I want to play, I need to somehow get 79 others. 2x40=80.

@Menzhinsky-everlook

So, Blizzard has given you the option to play an organized 40v40 and still this isn’t enough for you?

Something with high effort and low reward, vs low effort high reward. Not my fault you don’t understand how this works You’re expecting me to put in a lot of effort to get very little, while currently I put in very low effort and have hours of fun.

@Menzhinsky-everlook

It’s excuses all over again with ignoring the facts given to you.

What “facts” are being ignored exactly? Because every time I correct your “facts”, you say I ignore them

@Menzhinsky-everlook

Really pathetic to be honest.

Says the one that wants others to play exactly the way you want

@Meyko-draenor

it’s about a fact. You are circumventing the queue system

Fact: no queue system is being circumvented.

@Meyko-draenor

that allows to queue with a 5 man group only, to join the same epic bg with a 20+ man group.

Still queuing with only 5 people. These 20 people are still playing at the same time and would still end up in the same bg, and still work together, whether they intentionally queue together or not.

@Meyko-draenor

No, that addon got broken on purpose by Blizzard to not allow players to queue simoultaneously while being in a raid group with the purpose of joining the same bg. It didn’t break because of a patch cycle.

And like I said, you don’t need an addon for this, so it’s not worth maintaining the addon

@Meyko-draenor

Futile argument. There are many addons that are not necessary, but that we use regularly simply because according to our personal taste they make our gameplay more pleasant.

Why is this a futile argument exactly? Using 100% of the tools provided by Blizzard. If they don’t want it, they have to make it impossible to do, or state that it’s not allowed

@Meyko-draenor

But once again, you had to play around words in the attempt to win the argument.

Not playing around words here. If you bring up “Blizzard banned an addon, that’s why premades are not allowed”, and then crawl back to “Blizzard broke part of the addon, that’s why premades are not allowed”, while still not giving any proof that Blizzard actually said premades aren’t allowed… That’s your words (or lack thereof)

@Menzhinsky-everlook

It’s exactly what the author said. But I guess you had no time to read the stuff you get linked.

The author said that their addon wasn’t worth maintaining anymore, never said why.

(Blizzard made that impossible anyway or at least limited the functionality significantly)

The function of that addon according to the curse page:

Preform AV Enabler allows the group/raid leader to solo queue everybody in the raid group simultaneously with a button press and to see the queue status of everyone with this addon installed for the purpose of increasing the chance of the raid getting into the same battleground.

This is something you can do 100% without addons

@Menzhinsky-everlook

I really don’t know why they don’t teach reading on schools anymore.

You’re the one that needs a reading lesson. As per your post:

New Feature: “It is now possible to queue up to 5 people simultaneously using the standard Blizzard AV UI”

I’m still investigating the best options to queue with more than that, but it doesn’t look like a “quick fix” is possible.

Most importantly though: “We’ve prepared a collection of improvements that we’re going to make to Alterac Valley in WoW Classic over the next few days”

Alterac Valley in WoW Classic

Now if the blue post you linked is not the one you wanted to link, correct yourself and learn to read what you link

[Meyko-draenor]

@Linaori-ragnaros

Fact: no queue system is being circumvented.

Fact: you circumvent the queue system since said system doesn’t allow to queue as a 5+ man group. You are simply bypassing it. It doesn’t matter if you don’t want to admit it, that’s exactly what you do.

@Linaori-ragnaros

Still queuing with only 5 people. These 20 people are still playing at the same time and would still end up in the same bg, and still work together, whether they intentionally queue together or not.

This is your own assumption. So, since you are so sure that you would end in the same bg, why do you need to queue as many 5 man groups? Just queue in the regular way no?

@Linaori-ragnaros

And like I said, you don’t need an addon for this, so it’s not worth maintaining the addon

You are missing the point on purpose. What the creator wrote on his addon page is quite clear. The reason why he didn’t mantain the addon is related to the limits imposed by Blizzard.

@Linaori-ragnaros

Why is this a futile argument exactly? Using 100% of the tools provided by Blizzard. If they don’t want it, they have to make it impossible to do, or state that it’s not allowed

And that’s exactly what Blizzard did with that addon by making it impossible to use.

@Linaori-ragnaros

Not playing around words here. If you bring up “Blizzard banned an addon, that’s why premades are not allowed”, and then crawl back to “Blizzard broke part of the addon, that’s why premades are not allowed”, while still not giving any proof that Blizzard actually said premades aren’t allowed… That’s your words (or lack thereof)

All what you do is playing around words Linaori. I brought up nothing and I crawled anywhere. We are discussing about an addon that Blizzard made not possible to use because of its purpose (that is specified in the addon page I linked). You simply decided to focus on a single word in the attempt to prove your point. Already said this 3 times: you can define the addon banned, broken, killed, suppressed (put here the word you prefer) but the outcome is gonna always be the same.

The proof is under your eyes every single day. Open the bg tab and try to queue for an epic bg as a group that has more than 5 people in it. You are not allowed. Hence there is no official approval by Blizzard about 20+ man premades.

If Blizzard wanted 20+ man premades to join the same bg, don’t you think they would have already introduced an official option as they did for the current event Korrak’s Revenge?

[Áed-auchindoun]

All BGs must be random and rated. Even if the rating is hidden, there must be a rating. So my low geared alt won’t face crazy geared, gladiator premades. Rated 40v40 or 15v15 doesn’t mean they shall give any titles.

[Ðelenis-dun-modr (Ðelenis)]

@Áed-auchindoun

All BGs must be random and rated. Even if the rating is hidden, there must be a rating. So my low geared alt won’t face crazy geared, gladiator premades. Rated 40v40 or 15v15 doesn’t mean they shall give any titles.

If they do that, probably you’ll have to wait 20-30 minutes to join in your Bgs xD

They should remove gear progresion for PvP, so people aren’t forced to play for gear up, but for fight others players for fun.

Everybody with the same gear, premade or not.

[Scottsins-argent-dawn]

Ive been trying to enjoy low level bgs but wow these alliance premades man…

How do I report names in bgs? The premaders usually have edgy names that are clearly against the codes so having a chance to get them banned is great.

I usually dont report people, trust me, but id do anything to have premaders banned.

[Linaori-ragnaros]

@Scottsins-argent-dawn

How do I report names in bgs? The premaders usually have edgy names that are clearly against the codes so having a chance to get them banned is great.

Select them, right click, report. I believe this should still work for opposite faction players.

[Ðelenis-dun-modr (Ðelenis)]

@Scottsins-argent-dawn

How do I report names in bgs? The premaders usually have edgy names that are clearly against the codes so having a chance to get them banned is great.

You will not get them banned, the most they will be forced to namechange.

anyway I perceive some malice and bad intentions: “I can’t win against them, we are going to try to get them banned”

Every day I am more surprised with what I read in this forum.