godtier useless class? yes I agree.
shamans are 100x better
a bit extreme to invoke that dude just because i said something racist about a fictive race.
Youāre right.
I apologize.
all good <3
I have played both alli and horde (only p3)
Thereās a lot of players that hate either side and just spew nonsense to wind people up.
Main issue with alliance is I dont think thereās any actual pvpers playing at this stage
I have asked in a few games about who is rank7, thereās usually a couple, but 9 out 10 are not./
Next question I ask them is: will you continue to pvp after rank 7?
Pretty much a straight NO all around
Most Alli players have well and truly giving up on pvp
So we are left with horde players who enjoy the easy ranking /free wins most games playing against a bunch of afkāers waiting for their PVE set and dont really want to be there
I personally havenāt enjoyed either side, you would need to be a sociopath to enjoy beating alliās in the state they are in or a masochist to enjoy playing Alli
Bring faction vs faction pvp least horde can get some decent matchās and alliās can just afk against each other
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so you want to saddle the horde side with non-pvpers?
sounds like a pretty one-sided trade deal to me, and a really bad one.
weāre not going to carry you, nor do we want to carry you.
sucks that you arenāt having a good time, but likeā¦ āhere you guys should share in this extremely negative aspect of the game, because i have to suffer, so then you have to suffer tooā.
like really bro.
In what part of his post is he talking about carries or needing to be carried?
Faction vs faction means you fight horde.
Nothing about cross faction groups was spoke of.
Trust me bro i donāt think most of us would wanna play with you given the choice anyway 
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Not sure if this is to me? Dont think It can be unless thereās a been a misunderstanding.
But, if it is to me ā¦No, I want the exact opposite dude
That is basically the situation horde are in now though
Least if we stick gnomes masks on the peons we donāt like and chase them around AB it will be more of a challenge than the poor deflated Alliance side
Didnāt know this was a thing, sounds weird 
Stop this fake news already, you really believe all horde players are PvP gods and all alliance people are somehow canāt PvP? You canāt explain it by any probability theory, the only fact is class imbalace, battleground terrain differences and racial abilities. Other things is just you and people like you like to feel better because you hiding behind the back of a āwinnerā and you feel like itās your achievement which is not. Horde suck on BG as same as alliance, and I won every AB in phase2 and phase3 where was no shamans. Every. Freaking. Game.
I have just made it to r7 with only solo queueing and only started playing in p3. I can assure you Shamans are not the reason you are losing, because in a lot of the games I played there was no Shaman around.
Itās beyond my knowledge why so many ppl complain about Shamans, when there are Hunters volleying you for 3k and invincible Paladins rolling their heads on the keyboard while deleting you from the game. Then there are Boomies who crit you with an instant for above 1k. All classes you have access to.
Yes, he really believe horde has pro gamers and ally got all the dad gamers and ppl who just started playing
Hunters canāt heal, canāt be immune to slow, can be on both sides of the battleground and thereās no 3k hits hunterās have right now and you know that.
Paladins āinvincibleā only for 12 seconds once in 5 minutes and itās classic ability they always had.
You know full well that with the current state of the game there is no healing. You global or you get to eat dust yourself. Healing yourself is a waste of time except for the situations you can LoS somebody. Damage is just out of hand across the board. Hunters are up there. It is not that rare to eat Multis above 1k and Chimeras well above 1,5k.
All I am saying is that it is stupid to believe you lose a BG because there are two Shamans on the enemy team.
You uninformed, uncultured carcass.
Quit spilling out BS, alliance had a much higher win ratio in BGās in OG Wotlk, and thatās just an example.
h ttps://www.pvpleaderboard.com/statistics/rbg/all/#faction
That link also shows a 60-40 ratio in favour of Alliance in rated BGās atm on retail.
The reality is, you know very well that horde has advantage in PvP in classic, and youāre scared you may start getting one-shot by Alliance shamans.
EDIT:
h ttps://www.pvpleaderboard.com/leaderboards/rbg/eu
check how many Alliance players are at the top winners, btw
You are blind or dont understand what we try to tell you.
Shaman IS one of the problems, racials are a part of the problems too.
Or maybe you will try to show me that ally racials = horde racials ? When you search optimisation yes you go horde, so what happen a lot of players go horde because of racials AND shams.
Please tell me. Whatās so hard to understand when I say that most of the time there arenāt even excessive amounts of Shamans present in AB? I spammed AB to reach R7 and the games where I had 5-6 Shamans on team are honestly below 10.
I see what you are writing - I just donāt agree. I also donāt think racials are deciding games. Are Horde racials on average more powerful? For sure.
Didnāt they pretty much already did that by giving a flat 25% dmg reduction in pvp ?
It is gone now, that was only on weekends for testing. They are still elaborating on what to do.
this defacto translates directly to horde carrying pve andies (alliance players) in pvp.
maybe its a misunderstanding on my part, but if he means same-faction bgs he should have used different wording.
i donāt need forum approval of my usefulness, the constant praise i get for playing healer in every bg iām in is enough on its own.
the fact other players go out of their way to keep me alive is proof they consider me worth it.
you might think this is just par of the course of pvp, but that isnāt true. there is definitely such a thing as terrible healers - the ones you DONāT throw away your life to try and save.