Allied Race: Sethrak

I have no real interest in the sethrak one way or the other, but I assure you, that never happened.

There was a very brief team up, but it was nothing more than that, and then they went their separate ways.

The sethrak joined the alliance just as much as the horde did in pretty much every final raid in the game

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The Devoted didn’t join the Alliance, they worked with you for roughly 6 quests.
Saving Vorrik from death and his keystone. And then never working with them again from what we can see.

The Horde had roughly 4 times the amount of quests with them, they also saved Vorrik after he got captured again, freed more devoted, secured a keystone, armed them as they didn’t have enough weapons to even arm every able-bodied sethrak.
Went on to kill the faithless leader Korthek, having the vulpera and devoted sethrak working together. Then went into the Temple of Sethraliss and saved her.
After all this sethrak appear in the zandalari capital Dazar’alor, and Sethraliss herself is at the coronation of Talanji.
They’re closer to the Horde than the Alliance. And the Alliance is not even allowed to visit Zandalar after the war is over, it was part of the treaty that they would abandon all outposts and not being able to set foot on Zandalar except when permitted, so the Alliance don’t even have a presence there at the moment while the Horde has two friendly races right next to them that they worked with before, and have been shown to have more friendly contacts after the events in Vol’dun,

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Exactly
Why would a race, not at war with anyone, living peacefully along 2 races that out number them, randomly decide to make their own home a war zone and turn against their allies? Just to join a group of people that helped them a little bit, once, a while ago?

I really don’t care if the alliance get sethrak. I play both factions and would never even play one.

But its just crazy to try and use lore to justify it.

I have a lot more respect for the argument of “theyre cool so we want them” than “it makes sense in lore”

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Yeah, I understand wanting them though. As they’re really cool. But I don’t see it happening with current lore.
If anything it would need quite a bit new lore developments, and that’s fine if it’s done well. But at the moment they’re leaning more Horde and they would also not need as much lore development to join them.

I also feel like the whole treaty that made the Alliance abandon their outposts and not allowing them from visiting Zandalar really hampers possible future developments as well that would push them Alliance.

Personally i don’t think they’re all that cool
But i do see the appeal

They look completely unique

Would bring the alliance some variation, because at the end of the day, they have human, short human, shorter human, human that turns into a wolf, fat human, elves which are basically blue humans with long ears, and draenei females are just blue human swimwear models.

A snake race would shake them up quite a lot

But i don’t think sethrak are the race to shake them up.

I think jinyu for the alliance would make a lot more sense and would have the same effect

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Just like Zandalari and Pandaren

Oh wait!!!

No thank you! I would also prefer a new race over an allied one. However imo we currently have enough races and classes. If not they need to up the max char limit.

Yeah, Ankoan/Jinyu would be great and it’s a real shame they weren’t added.
Another cool race that is “neutral” are Arakkoa. They would also shake things up quite a bit on the Alliance side.

Anyway this is a sethrak thread, so let’s not get too far off topic.

I honestly think if they didn’t rush 8.3 out the door, we would have got gilgoblins and the ankoan on their respective factions

True about off topic

But Vulpera aren’t enemies of Faithful to Sethrallis Sethrak such as Vorrik. Sethrallis was present on Talanji’s coronation, meaning that the Loa wants to be part of the Zandalari life, and where the Sethrallis go her faithful children will follow.

Maybe? But would that mean that it’ll open up others as allied races (like ogres?). How far can that be implemented before it starts to decline in interest or gets too crazy? Some of the allied races are somewhat similar to the core races (and I say that as someone who went LF Draenei) and they’re just re colors of their core races that could have just been implemented via the creation options. I’m not saying that I’m against adding allied races but If it was implemented they’d have to feel like they’re a separate race (and join the alliance). So maybe, yeah since they look unique and have an interesting culture. But I’d really prefer another class before more races are added.

Zandalari guys use heavily modified Nelf skeleton. Model is new, and Majority of animations were replaced. But it is true that it was a base they worked on back in MoP and on Botani.

Yeah I did some research and found it to be true :cry:
Still, I’m telling myself they were modified so much that they were never based on Nelfs.

Do you play horde ?

They are indeed so modified that they’re distinct on on their own yes :wink:

The only animations I’d vhange would be 2H special attack and /bow and /dance ( I have no idea what is that supposed to be).

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Why does it matter though?
You couldn’t tell and you enjoy them

I think races are better and easier to add then classes, simply because you don’t have to balance them which takes a lot of time.
And in theory you can’t have enough races or customization options simply because diversity is fun for the most part.
I think that HM tauren, DI dwarf, Mag’har orcs and LF draenei should have been customization option. Leaving either allied and core races more unique, I think zandalari, vulpera and Kul tirans are good as they’re quite a deviation model or/and themewise from what they’re based on. Void elves and Nightborne as well even if I want more customization for them to be good, they’re good in theory as a kinda model swap between the factions.

Something that would be cool are Tuskarr for example, and I’d image they could be based on the pandaren rig as they’re both quite chunky.

I dunno about this one because I think they stand out quite a lot more than lightforged do.
I think fire beards are a bit much for a customisation but I dunno about the rest of them

Oh yes that’s very true. I actually didn’t consider that. :sweat_smile:

No. There is still many races missing their heritage sets+quests to achieve those. Those should be done first.