Lorewise, it was a bad idea. As you see by my avatar, I was excited first, but now I realized that they feel really out of place.
Yep pretty much.
Allied races were a mistake. All we wanted was more customization…
To be frank, I was exited to hear that there is Exarch Hellscream somewhere.
Agreed. The main problem is that they seemed to think that allied races are some kind of substitute for customization. “Oh yes, there’ll be more customization for the future, but for now you have ARs”. Especially when for most of the “new” races all of their customization options would have fit their “parent race” just as well. Skin tones, hair styles, scars and tatoos could just as well have been added to the existing races, and stuff like burning beards was never needed in the first place.
It doesn’t help that the quest lines that were supposed to bring them into the factions were quite crappy.
I mean let’s break it down:
- Dark iron dwarves should have been a simple Dwarf addon
- LF Draenei should have been a simple Draenei addon
- Velves could have been a Blood Elf Shadow priest addon
- Kul Tirans should have been a Human Addon
- HM Tauren should have been a simple Tauren addon
- Maghar should have been a simple Orc addon
- Nightborne could have been a Nelf addon
- Zandalari should have been a simple Troll addon
And all other races should have gotten stuff as well.
Not at all. I like the concept and more races to play.
The problem is, many of them are a strange choice. Lightforged? It’s a good option for Draenei, but that’s it. It should have been an option, like golden eyes for Bloodelves. Broken would have been a better allied race, in my view.
Others are just a waste, like Voidelves.
Same goes for every race. The Zandalari are likely one of the best (but I have problems with their models). I would like to have all Troll tribes playable.
All tribes compared to only Zandalri would bee great. Like the Mag’har clans (sure different models, but…well).
These two have at least really different models. I’d be willing to see them as real new races, though giving the KTs Ogre size was a stupid move. They even had real questlines surrounding their joining the factions that mostly make sense. But the rest… yeah.
I rather liked the idea of allied races to begin with but it ended up feeling a bit … half-assed.
I think the Nightborne were a cool addition to the horde since they actually did share a lot with the blood elves. However, why make them pretty again? Why couldn’t they be skinny and monstrous elves? That would have been awesome.
The Mag’har orcs were a good addition as well but like others have already said, maybe they could have been an extension to the already existing orc? The biggest misstep with the mag’har orcs is that they chose for them to be the mag’har of the alternate dimension. The whole quest chain for unlocking those characters was cringy.
And why weren’t the void elves just high elves? The void elves are not a “race”, they’re a band of cursed exiles. So yeah, allied races were pretty meh!
Which is exactly IMO, what more customization should also bring.
Instead of making more races out of models of the same race, the existing races should get more models.
Right now we are left with allied races that feel completely unsatisfying IMO…
For example:
I like my velf, but there are only 2 hairstyles I like and most other people like the same ones…
I was planning to trans into a DID, but the burning Hair and the fact that I only like 1-2 Hairstyles there, prevent me from doing it…
I’m ok with them as Allied races. Especially for the Zandalri. It’s also a nice touch to the Amani Horde Alliance during the Second War.
But I agree with the rest from you here.
Edit: We really need more customization .
It’s not as simple as that. People wanted blood elves on alliance and night elves on horde, that’s what got us void elves and nightborne. There are even people who wanted maghar on alliance or are hoping for some kind of holy undead race. Blizzard is just giving the community what it wanted.
Exarch Hellscream? Can you link?!
Seems I really don’t know “people”. But even if that was the case, I don’t know how that leads to the abominations that came from it.
http://pm1.narvii.com/6949/3a5059ca2be53a4e520b1888e87ee2764527e503r1-626-598v2_uhq.jpg
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2424396-AU-Xera!!!-and-AU-exarch-garrosh!!!/page13
Don’t know how to feel about that actually
The Allied Races we have now are not of much interest to me, really. But, what I think they did is that they simply just picked the wrong races to include and how they included some of them made no sense.
The Zandalari make sense, they got a big chunk of spotlight on them this expansion, and it made sense that they joined used, same with the Kul Tiran. Felt much more natural than the Highmountain Tauren, or the Void Elves.
Give us regular Mag’har from Outland, not Light crazy ones from another timeline. And maybe go back in lore, instead of only coming up with new races. Jinyu. Tuskarr. Taunka. Etc.
i feel like lightforging is something a normal draenei should go through rather then it being a seperate race you do the process you come out lightforged no need for a seperate race for it
also i think kul’tiras was kinda disappointing race wise they should have let people choose the super tiny version too
Imo, it just served three purposes:
a) keep players longer on subs for the time needed to get allied races playable
b) get those who are not into lore to buy the product in the first place
c) watering down faction profile for the finale of BfA to be less painful
At any rate, making cosmetical changes to already existing races is less of a feat than creating new ones. Leave alone than writing a story.
nope allied races are amazing, and only issue i have with them is that rep isnt grindable on mobs,just wq’s that all give way to little rep.
well that and a the crap nightborne model but that isnt issue of allied race system(if werent allied race theyd still likly have gotten basicly same model anyway)
I think you forgot loads of race change money, which I would actually put at the top of the list. Blizzard makes more with shop+services than with subscriptions by now. And I think they were quite the success in that regard, considering how many people I know put money into a change to an AR… And in some cases back again…