Guilds are optional.
Precisely… but they can just leave and find a new guild without those requirements.
Before m+, you can only do heroic dungeons before raid.
So i think its rather git gud problems.
Rlly man I obliterate m+ every single expansion I rlly don’t see a problem in running the same dungeon over again rlly not, what is wrong with it? And tbh it means you are not a fan of wow because it was like that every other expansion tbh
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Ok
legion m+ was fun mainly because the class design was better then what we have now.
Owkey, so m+ isn’t the problem but class design? So don’t blame the format blame the incompetent devs.
What? 
i didn’t say m+ is problem i just told him why m+ in legion for many people was more fun then nowdays
it was because of class design
in my opinion every problem that people have with pve and pvp starts and ends with class design.
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M+ is literally the one of the three end game pillars that a casual can get into and have fun.
A lot of people rather stick to the “safe bet” where they have a spot staying where they are and “Put up with it” instead of jumping out trying to find something new possibly miss loot from the raid lockout and maybe the new guild is worse than the previous one in terms of progression.
I have an idea let’s make roleplay the end content 
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