Alt friendliness of SoD is gone

I honestly find it a shame that the playing of alts has been heavily impeded by blizzard by the way they’ve designed phase 4. And I would like to see some changes in the future.

Why keeping up with alts is much harder now?

  • Dungeon coin farming, tier 0 is a must have. This is still doable, it’s a bit of a process. But doable and fair. But even for most, tier 0.5 is a must have because tier 0 doesn’t give their specialization any boost.

Where having and wanting to play alts becomes problematic:

Costs:

  • 900g per epic mount is too much for alts.

  • The tier 0.5 quest chain gold requirements. Doing it on your main, fine… But then to be spending another 400g+ per alt? Not to mention the difficulty of finding groups the further we get down the phase.

  • Reputation grinds are heavily necessary, but they’re long and tedious.

  • Warrior MUST do the onyxia quest chain, buying the necklace doesn’t allow for them to give the new buff which is a must have.

Proposed solutions:

  • An account bound trinkets that increases reputation gain by 300% at revered and by a 1000% after reaching exalted for each faction. You still have to do some reputation gaining on the alts, but its not another equally long grind.
  • Reduce epic mount cost to 450g
  • Lower the amount of craftable items required for each tier 0.5 quest part. Reducing the required items where 3 are needed to 1, and where 4 are needed to 2.
  • Make honor rewards purchaseable across classes -3 ranks of your highest ranked character.
  • Make warriors attain the world buff equivalent through a different quest.
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It is a what now?

I never got any piece of it and i currently have 5 pieces of Molten core tier gear from 2 raids.

You guys make up the weirdest requirements

Imagine spending all that time and gold on just nothing

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Well depends how u look in it. I stop play s3 on halfway from burning out from play on pvp server, plunderstorm was IN, Pandaria Remix, Cata… So ye i choose to not play sod and wait s4 because overall was boring tho and in that time I stop play had 100g.
Today for 100g u can buy 2 flasks on ah that is how much worth gold.
So I need to farm gold, farm rep, farm gear still no mount tho because everything cost and honestly burry yourself in one game even seasonal one is stupid.
U know is seasonal and wont last forever so u have limited time to achiv something and sod is just too much grind so wheere is my time for other games??
Now retail release event Echo and soon will be war whitin early relase 26.8 so ye is not friendly for this type of content .
And sod is not exlusive just for sod players tho is for all players who pay sub!

too late to reduce the epic mount cost , just wait for the free R11 pvp one if you’re too lazy to farm a bit i guess.

Oh stop your nonsense! The game’s practically throwing gold at you and if you’d actually play it, you’d have no issues. But instead you prefer to whine here, because somehow you’ve decided that it all should be given to you on a silver platter. It shouldn’t. Go play the game.

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I’ve got over 80 days played in SoD, on 8 different characters combined. I’ve been playing plenty to justify my opinion on phase 4. And yes the amount of gold you get compared to classic wow is substantial. But SoD was envisioned to be alt friendly so that you could enjoy the class changes with runes in earlier phases and phase 4 is just not in line with that. Sure aquiring gold is far less tedious than the reputation grinds. Some people would like to not make acquiring gold and reptutation a second daily job.

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I do agree, to get another character and chew through the 0.5 questline, onxyia attunement, fire resistance gear grind and to collect all the runes again is daunting.

I would recommend doing the items account bound instead, its whats normally been done in other expansions etc.

First one is full price and from there 450g per epic mount per alt Im fully in favor of.

I would suggest something different. I did the grind within the first days and that should be enough for everyone tbh. We have access to the NPC that got all set items. Those set items should be account bound + you can buy them for gold. This is a much better setup that is more welcoming, alt friendly and encourages people to level up their alts.

You no longer need to get onyxia attunement on alts, you can just buy the neck from the guy in Thralls room as horde and some other guy somewhere in Stormwind as alliance and send it to your alt, look it up. :- )

As much as I agree with all of this I still think that if you’ve done the 0.5 questline, then the items from other classes should be account bound and you should be able to buy them for gold.

MC is already released + Heat 1 is super easy anyways, so for that reason it would be ok to get the 0.5 gear for the alts imo.

This is actually a massive step up, I appreciate this thank you!

You don’t really need pre-bis at all, so the only thing you HAVE to do is get your class appropriate runes which isn’t so bad.

Im actually surprised they haven’t made the 0.5 tier vendor account wide. So much for the alt friendliness lmao.

Doing it once on main is fine, altho I have to admit it’s the worst questline I ever done in my life. Can’t imagine doing it again on alts.

Making the vendor acc wide not only helps alts but creates a decent “gold sink” if you wish to call it like that.

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This is why im playing cata, Just log in and play my characters.
Not doing spreadsheets and insanely boring farms.

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It’s not, I had chars with bis ST gear or mix and match gear from 50-60 dungeons going in and doing just fine.

800, if you spend an hour in BRM during BRE. And even then, why do you need an epic on all chars

It’s not a must, relax.

Not on all chars, just crafters. Optimize and make one or two chars crafters, one gatherer and rest CD bots.

Unless you have 5 warriors, not a big issue. Quest is great XP and I did it on 6 chars so far, despite not needing to do it cause of the BoAccount neck.

Solutions are very anti-classic. Each char is it’s own story. We might as well just ask for Warband implementation…
Epic mount reduction in cost… Sure, unnecessary but sure.
Don’t touch existing classic quest. T0.5 isn’t a must, get a grip.
Honor - Again, same as above, we’re not in warbands.
As for warriors, why? Quest is super easy to do since everyone is doing it, can do it while leveling, and warriors can do it easier due to how few tanks are around.

Terrible ideas overall, the limitations you perceive are ones you imposed on yourself.

Berny is still raiding without enchants.

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As far as tier 0.5 aquisition is concerned, while time consuming and fairly expensive, you’ve created this problem yourself by choosing to follow the minmaxing mentality, bis lists and such. This choice is yours and yours alone, noone forced your hand and as such it’s only fair that you get to face the concequences of said choice in their entirety. Don’t expect the game to hold your hand in every endeavour you choose to undertake.

The biggest issue is the heat levels.

Quests/attunements aren’t a problem because everyone is in the same boat - it was managed just fine in Classic, SoM and Era.

The problem is that the difficulty pugs and guilds will want to do is gated behind a big material, rep, and crafting grind.

All of the “jump in and play”-ness of classic has been removed.

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your main who completed ony chain can buy the book for warrior and send it too him

Agree with this. Alting is way to much of a hassle. Even leveling up cost way to much for how much you get from rewards. Skills, mounts etc just cost way to much.

True. And everyone makes out of it what he can or wants.

You want to play other stuff and therefore don’t have enough time to compete in SoD because of that?
That’s simply only your personal problem.