Am I crazy or every single epic bg has these premade addon abusers and no real game ever gets played?

Every single epic bg, there are ppl spamming “we lost, because its xxxx’s premade”. Not a single epic bg I joined in, since I resubbed this cosplay of a game, was a legit game. How is blizzard ok with this? Like it would take few hours to find a fix in form of few lines of code or put out statement this exploit is prohibited and bannable.

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They are lazy

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It is sad but it is true. Yesterday i ran 5 Epic BG’s and all of them had premades :smiley: Every single one.

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Blame the people who do this.
They demoralize their team, which is just stupid and counterproductive.

Yesterday, a druid in our team yelled “ZaDo PReMaDe its lOsT”.
“They wIll All bUrsT aT the SaMe TImE anD wE die”

How did it go?
We played the game and won.
And we won the first fight for the AA in Ashran by a landslide.

The so-called “premades” in epic bgs are often just small groups that don’t even make up 10% of a team. Sometimes they are not even small groups but one person alone making calls to direct a random team. Sometimes it is not even that and people cry premade for no reason whatsoever, but the effect of crying premade is that it drastically lowers team morale and it makes it more likely that your team loses.

There are sync premades with multiple groups that are actually hard to beat, but if your opponent isn’t either Larkus or Zenie, it’s likely not a sync premade.

Just say nothing about premades in raid chat and play the game, then you can win.
If your opponents have a leader / strategy caller, communicate in chat and coordinate your own team.

That’s all it takes to beat most of the so-called “premades” some players are so afraid of.
Less hysteria, more action.
You probably won’t beat syncers with this, but for everyone else this is good enough.

Yeah im not gonna blame weak peanuts that bypass the system limit to create an uneven matchup.

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I dont know who these ppl are, but I had this Larkus donut in 6/8 games today. Unlucky, I guess. Im not ever queing epic bgs again. Ignoring the fact that this game is a waste of time and money due to how blizz treats it, joining epic bgs is like Im paying to be a cannon fodder for others to have fun. I dont even know why I care. Its my last day of sub tomorrow anyway and blizzard keeps showing me they are not interested in customers.

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They are incompetent.

Man i play 1 group maximum. And this on ally only me doing something. On horde side so much groups and leader. So alliance weak faction. And horde side always win.

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My Wife and i exclusively play PVP when the Horde merc NPC is here so we can play on Horde with our Alliance mains. Playing Epic BG’s on Alliance is just 90% losing due to all the Horde premades.

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F syncers, absolutely.
I was talking more about the players who cry premade even though there is no sync premade in sight. They throw winnable games for no reason.

Since when?
Did you stop syncing for good?

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No. Because people dont play anymore. Like i told you before, if we have people we sync if not then 1group maximum.

dawg, 5 out of 10 players is still 50% of the Battleground.
in terms of scale
people who premade in epic battlegrounds are 20-25 out of 40.
Making it 50-60% of the bg.
Same impact.
And thing is because this wasnt such a crazy popular thing until rencently, nobody bat an eye.
But its getting really hard for people to close their eyes.
And its completely undertandable,
you really stop attempting to gasslight people into thinking they’re not being just by calling it what it is- unfair advantage.
And while admitedly there is very little that can be done about the 5/10 premades
25 + premades can be banned on the legitimate reasoning that they use a tactic to bypass the game mechanics limit of 5 people premade.
With its sole purpose for it being there is to LIMIT the premade amount to 5.

Another thing I like to bring is perspective, because people lack inner dialogue and they lack imagination. Here is a potential future that we actually saw turn out true during the Classic + times:

  • Once people start massively assambly for Premades it deinsentivises casual people and newbies to feed the blood stream resulting in longer ques, less diversity in situation and death of brackets.
  • Once people start massively assambly for Premades it insentivises other people to do the same. With time you start facing 90% premades, which calls for elitism. Elitism ? What do I mean by that ?
    People start asking about your skill/gear if you have enchants, consumables and so on.
    Why ? Very simple - because they want to have advantage over the other premades.
    With time this will completely alienate newbies and casual players and they will quit or be turned into Premaders punching bags.

Do you see why Premades are bad ?

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I blame pvp gear not being locked behind rating for this premade bs, usually these bg heroes would get stomped by a real pvper with elite conquest weapon, now they get same gear as good pvpers and they go pwn noobs with it. :coffee:

None of this premade bs would happen because most people would be busy playing ranked to unlock better gear, so casuals get to enjoy unrated pvp.

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Alot of them just wintrade in RBG bracket or buy/wintrade in blitz to get it (ppl like syncers).
It wouldnt take too long for them to get it and you would end up making the premade situation even worse compared to before. Since not only do they already have the advantage of premade/syncing. Now they also have the higher ilvl against the casuals.

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This entire thread is about the situation in epic battlegrounds and has nothing to do with random bg.

This is also wrong because the two major active sync premades in europe synchronize 2-3 groups on average and enter with 10-15 players, which is still circumventing restrictions and should be punished or made impossible.

I was talking about a different phenomenon in epic bgs altogether.
When some players throw around the word premade, but there isn’t even a trace of syncing in the other team. When it’s either leaders with random teams, small groups within the 5 man limit that make up around 10% of a team or even less or nothing at all.

Then don’t say you do at most 1 group. This is just dishonest and misleading.
You try to get as many strong players as you can get and only play with one group if you can’t find any more players.

larkus is lying he literally said in chat he has 5 groups for sync tonight most likely because he got the L handed to him yesterday night

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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

going to afk again when your losing? i counted 3 times in a row yesterday

So you happy see 3 lose from 1000 bgs? I congratulations you. And now when we synq, others preamde avoide us. So. Yes you can win me 1bg from 100 when im alone or with few people. Enjoy this time man. You can make in your calendar :date: celebration day :slight_smile: btw in the morning i played alone on huntet and win 10/10 bgs even vs fado group and emergency group. So Its a random man, so some bgs you lose, some bgs we win. Enjoy your wins man! Good luck

literally just caught you in a lie and your now trying spin another? calm down