For the tech savvy and those that are interested Backstory
So a while back my trusted reliable PC broke. I made a thread about it but long story short the GTX 770 GPU went kaput. (thanks for those that tried to assist diagnosing)
I bought a pre-build i9 12900 / RTX 3080 due to the GPU market just being crazy and not being able to find a card at a reasonable price at all.
The build was fine nothing wrong with it at all really but I bought an unconventional case and decided to make another AMD build, this time building it myself.
The previous system is going to be used as a Work-station downstairs and I have finished building a new rig. Paired a Ryzen 9 5900x with a RX 6950 XT Sapphire
The Rx 6950 XT is amazing. Iâm using a 144hz 1440p monitor and WoW actually looks really nice. Usually hitting 100-144FPS depending on how busy they are. I was running on max settings everywhere. Pre-set 10 , ultra , view distance etc. everything. Recently have turned this down for more consistency however.
I tried FSR and Iâm massively impressed. Before adjusting the smaller settings that didnât offer much gain for performance , FSR seemed to lower GPU util and temps a tiny bit, along with CLK
TLDR-The question
Fellow AMD users , do you find it better to use FSR and upscale for performance? Or do you just use native and go from there?
I also at times , have had black screen crashes. Believe itâs the drivers (classic), anyone else experienced these? Overall very happy with the setup and will need to Undervolt / OC potentially
My RX580 8gb OC (rog strix) is crying in the corner when it has to power my 1440p 170hz monitor.
Hopefully will I be able to upgrade my card to a 3080ti soon enough(donât want to pay overprice). But I will try to scale it up! I will let you know when I have the results m8!
black screens can be caused by a power supply related problem âŚ
not enough juice being pumped to ur limbs so they keep going dead and unable to move.
left unchecked could cause eprmanent dmg such as GPU death⌠nothing good comes from constant and sudden cuts of powerâŚ
maybe run tests to see if proper amounts of wattage is being supplied to the right places when it is needed.
i used to get constant gpu black screens on a old pc i had years agoâŚ
in the end it was because the rig was heavily overheating which caused the problem ⌠bad case design , literally was cooking my gpu alive like a oven.
Iâve tried rendering 5k on my 2.5k monitor, and itâs a little bit crisper and sharper, thereâs a little more texture visible in dense foliage and the like. Itâs also 30fps on my 3060, which isnât acceptable; so I render native.
Your 6950XT should be so absurdly overkill for WoW that you should be running 5k and downscaling. What is the point of this top tier, expensive GPU if you donât do this? Youâve paid the cost of a laptop for the card alone. Use it for quality
TLDR, never upscale unless your fps is dropping below what you consider minimum acceptable levels. And even if it does, be sure that lowering the resolution actually changes the situation. You may well be CPU bound.
not used fsr, but have watched enough content of it to see that fsr 1.0 is okay but not a slam dunk and may well be worth it if you need the performance, and that fsr 2.0 is really good.
dlss is insane honestly though. cannot tell the difference without pixel peeping and sometimes even makes certain objects look better than native. iâd probably never turn it off in a game that supported it.
This is my fault and I probably should have clarified that the Black screens are mostly more âtimeoutsâ and then the AMD adrenaline app report tool pops up around a minute later. Have had full Black screen crashes however and I donât think its PSU related as iâve got a Thor 1200W supply lol
I donât know how to take my monitor past its native resolution? I also didnât think this was possible although I vaguely remember on my 3080 build it automatically loaded WoW as 4k The build is completely Overkill for WoW though, but I do play some Elden ring on occasion and have the total war series + star citizen
Going to assume you donât decide and everyone is on FSR 2.0 if the game supports it now? unless itâs not out yet?
WoW has options for this; look for Resolution Scale and take it up to 200%. Youâre not taking the monitor past native; youâre telling the game to render above native then scale down.
You absolutely should be considering it on a powerful gpu, it is a visible difference
You seem knowledgeable, I will hijack this for my own AMD problemsâŚ
I have recently upgraded my trusty old 1080 with a 6750 XT, and while there is a noticeable performance increase in pretty much all the games I play, I see a performance decrease in WoW.
In most areas I am completely fine. I have set my limit to 90 FPS (75Hz monitor, so no real use going any higher) and it remains there rather consistently. However, there are a few places where my FPS just takes a dip, e.g. in the outdoor market area of Tazavesh Streets. FPS will just drop down to 35ish. I can change graphics settings all I want, there is no change to the FPS. As soon as I leave the market I get normal performance again. And there are a couple of places (both instanced and outside) where it gets really hard to play due bad FPS.
GPU usage hovers around 25%, CPU usage at 30ish%.
I thought I might be CPU limited with my old Ryzen 1600X at first, but the 1080 never had this issue. If the CPU were to blame, then I feel the same problem should have also occurred on the older GPU. Tried a quick Google, but it seems I am the only one with this problem, and itâs driving me crazy
I had this issue with my RX 590 ever since I bought it. Already reported it through the driverâs bug report feature. There are also a lot of threads about it on many different forums. But AMD just doesnât seem to give a single flying **** about it. I like the feature set of AMD cards, but itâll will be really hard for me to stick with them for my next purchase if they canât write a driver that doesnât crash my PC 3 times a week.
when i upgraded to an 5700xt gpu i had same problem with random black screen. turned out that i hadnt clicked the second power plug into gpu properly. seemed as it heated up it broke the conection but reconected when pc restarted.
felt like a dumb as when i found it
Iâm sticking with the GTX 980 (strix) for now.
âIf it ainât broken, shut up and playâ
So far, the most stable GPU/cooling Iâve ever had.
And thatâs counting the Voodoo cards in the 90s
One thing Iâve always tried to do when I bought a GPU is to make sure it comes with a better cooling than standard.
There was a Radeon card (canât remember the model) where I bought and installed a after market cooling. It got cooler and less noisy
But Twiggzâ advice still holds. Some PC cases might look good but donât always provide a good airflow.
Iâve spent a little just on airflow alone.
New PC case for 200⏠and not long ago also new case fans for 100âŹ
Itâs worth it
Aside from being on the wrong sub-Forum (Games, Gaming & Hardware is where this should be), your whole machine needs to be in balance.
My own PC is a 5800X with 32GB of 3600/CL16 & an RX6800; I play on a 27" 1440p/144hz monitor & get way more FPS than I need. Itâs fed by a Seasonic 850W Platinum PSU and has never crashed.
The whole machine is totally OTT for WoW, but as I spend my entire waking day in front of a PC, I have no other need for disposable income.
My suggestion - reset all your hardware back to default settings & query why you need to adjust any performance criteria. A 5900X/6950XT should allow for 4K/144⌠but some of the spec. seems to be not up to the job youâre asking of it.
Thatâs because you canât - you can do 1440p on a 4K panel, or 1080p, but if youâre buying a a panel more demanding than your hardware, youâre doing it wrong.
If you want 1440p/144, get a panel that meets the requirements⌠and no more. I made that mistake when I wanted to get away from DVI-D & inadvertently bought a 4k/60 monitor that my (then) 1050ti sweat bukkits trying to drive.
Long story short; 1050ti became RX Vega56, 4K/60 panel became 1440p/144hz & I was p***ed that Iâd gone down a financial rabbit hole that I hadnât needed to.
Balance your graphics card & monitor - your machine will thank you in the long run.
Iâll check this over the weekend. Iâd be very surprised if that was the case as the black screens are quite infrequent!
As multiple people have mentioned it. My CPU temp on WoW is mainly 37°C and my GPU is around mid 40sâItâs being cooled by a Ryujin II 360
If my old 770 was anything to go by them cards are great mate.
As said above my cooling should be fine despite the unusual case! For those curious itâs an Azza 804
I did not see those Sub-forums my bad! I did have a little look and only saw technical and it isnât a tech issue blizzard-related really (least I donât think it is)
Nice specs mate. If that is the case then Iâm definitely curious to your settings !
The full build is
5900X
6950 XT Sapphire Toxic LE
Asus Rog Ryujin II 360
32GB Vengeance RPO 3600
1200W Asus Rog Thor
all on a Rog Strix X570-E board
Iâve done a full refresh of the drivers and everything is still under warranty
GTX cards are solid and good, but nothing beats Voodoo cards but to be fair 90s expectations on what a gpu should do was also much lower then todays standard.
It sound very much as the gpu is overheating or/and getting to much voltage. But since you already checked that and reinstalled the drivers and more, could it be that the hardware is damaged. Since you have warranty, just go to store and change the GPU.
Itâs not the physical hardware itself, my card is perfect just like yours. Itâs the driver thats causing the issue. It may be stable for you, in your config, but custom built PCâs has so much variables, that some bugs will always appear for some users, under various conditions. Itâs normal. My problem is that AMD was unable to solve this black screen crash issue for multiple years now.
The build is completely Overkill for WoW though, but I do play some Elden ring on occasion and have the total war series + star citizen
but to be fair 90s expectations on what a gpu should do was also much lower then todays standard.