An alternative to the factions!

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So, I have been thinking today about the entire faction system and I have been wracking my head with a possible alternative. I am interested in your opinions. I see in my head four possible factions.

The Alliance: Stormwind, the Dwarves, the Gnomes, the high elven survivors, later Gilneas. Based in the Eastern Kingdoms, mostly reactive, in clear opposition to the Forsaken.

The Forsaken: Based in former Lordaeron, intent on reclaiming all of it, in a loose Alliance of convenience with the blood elves. Their primary enemy is the Scourge, with the Alliance being a close second as they desire to secure their own lands. This would be the “morally gray” faction.

The kaldorei and draenei faction: Lets face it, lore-wise the night elves are strong enough to be a faction of their own, and they would later be joined by the draenei, creating a Kalimdor faction of these two races. They are locked in constant conflict with the Kalimdor Horde.

The Horde: Orcs, trolls, tauren. Survivors, founders of a new nation, wagging war upon the night elves for resources and all that jazz. Basically imagine a tribal Horde without elves and Forsaken.

Suramar would be neutral yet loosely affiliated with the sin’dorei, Highmountain tauren would stand with the Horde, Lightforged Draenei with their own people. On void elves I am not sure.

I believe such a system would lead to a much more dynamic and realistic gameplay!

Thoughts and opinions, oh comrades?

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No they are not? Sylvanas killed the vast majority of the Kaldorei when she burned Teldrassil. The Kaldorei in their prime were almost crushed by Garrosh had it not been for High King Varian Wrynn’s miraculous intervention, and that is when they still had Teldrassil. Now that they are but a shadow of their former self, they are NOTHING without the Alliance.

As for the Draenei, Anduin is Velen’s greatest and closest friend, he will always side with him.

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Yeah yeah, but imagine this is all back in Vanilla.

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Haha!

:heart:

Yes.

Hail Greymane!

Ewwwww.

Would be a nice change. Instead of everything that lives.

I refuse to hit a Dwarf or a Gilnean.

Yeeeeeees.

Yeeeeeees :heart: accent, golden horseshoes, horns, moar hooves and tails!

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Continuity exists…

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Even back in Classic, they relied on the Alliance for help, such as in the Warsong Gulch battleground.

The Night Elves were never this OP race that can take on the Horde all on their own. Even in Warcraft III they were getting steamrolled by the Warsong Clan and the Legion and needed the Alliance and the Horde to survive.

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I AM SORRY.

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Soooo.
An entire new game got it.
Using the new Wow Ip.
One question though~ Will it be on mobile?
For I assume that you guys have phones right😊?

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A battleground isn’t really canon. And night elves were perfectly capable of defending their own lands until the point Varian Wrynn needed a superman moment.

The spacegoat will behave, or it will get the hose.

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Was I the only to see the Warsong Clan get utterly demolished up until the demon blood deus ex machina?

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After the Night elves had help from a litteral God.
Mind you, one orc clan against the unslaught of a god.

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And night elves were perfectly capable of defending their own lands until the point Varian Wrynn needed a superman moment.

Yeah, because Jaina and her forces in Theramore were keeping Garrosh busy in the Barrens at the cost of their own neutrality. Don’t think for a moment that if the Night Elves had been abandoned by the Alliance, they would have been able to defeat Garrosh.

Theramore was even described in Tides of War as the most martial Alliance foothold on the continent of Kalimdor. Thus stronger than any Kaldorei fortress or town in Kalimdor.

Was I the only to see the Warsong Clan get utterly demolished up until the demon blood dead ex machina?

If by “the elves killed a couple of grunts and peons belonging to a single clan” you mean “demolished”, then yes.

After the Night elves had help from a litteral God.
Mind you, one orc clan against the unslaught of a god.

Exactly.

Meanwhile Stormwind, that didn’t have an OP God and 10.000 years of experience, was able to single-handedly deal to the Old Horde (which was comprised of ALL clans on Draenor) one of its greatest and most humiliating defeats during the first Siege of Stormwind.

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Not true, the Barrens invasion came post Garrosh’s Ashenvale attack.

Stormwind had Medivh save it from the Gurubashi by literally one person killing them all.

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LOK’TAR DEMOLISHER!!!

Ummm. Yea, they got wrecked pretty badly without the sweet Mannroth’s juices.

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Source? Because I am pretty certain that the Cataclysm questline in Ashenvale happens at the same time of the questline in Southern Barrens.

Stormwind had Medivh save it from the Gurubashi by literally one person killing them all.

I am talking about the First War.

LOK’TAR DEMOLISHER!!!
Ummm. Yea, they got wrecked pretty badly without the sweet Mannroth’s juices.

Likewise, the Night Elves were pretty much useless after Cenarion died.

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Cenarius is a Demi-god not a god.

Yes fel-Grom and co defeated Cenarius. However, the Legion were ultimately defeated (after much delaying tactics by A/H) by a massive Kaldorei spell. We would not be having this convo without the Kaldorei at Hyjal.

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Chronicles state that Garrosh’s incursion into Ashenvale, followed by the massive offensive came before the battles in other parts. Unless you mean to say that Jaina started the war by attacking the Barrens for the kicks, it is logical to assume that one followed after the other.

Tides of War also states that Theramore sent its armies out only after Garrosh attacked Ashenvale.

It is irrelevant what you talk about, you laugh at Cenarius but Stormwind exists because Medivh apparently can solo the entire united Gurubashi tribes.

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Huhm. Let me think about this…
…no.
Kaldorei stopped being a power faction latley with first the Cataclysm and then the burning of Teldrassil. Also, srsly? It’s not a got idea to split the community even further apart. Most players will keep sticking with the nice aesthetical races for the faction, leaving the Horde in exactly the bad shape it was back in Classic WoW. This is not a concept for the long future of this or any other Warcraft MMO game.

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Why have factions at all, though, if we are already throwing away the preceding ones? Why declare any alliance to be an unbreakable one?

Really, with 3 clans and the gnomes, Khaz Modan is kind of a faction in itself, and if we are already redrawing boundaries, I would actually like this block to act independantly from the humans. Dwarves actually aren’t even all that reactive, if you remember them digging all over the world without a care of who is claiming that land and who lies buried under it…

The alliance with the… well, the Alliance could be a looser one.

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I am aiming for a more realistic approach. Further more, the Horde suffers because elves are pretty, and we all wanna be pretty. Make the orcs pretty I say!

Fair points, and I agree, this is mostly idle philosophy with a smattering of fan fiction.

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