Wondering what people think about something like this:
“New” Loot System
Bosses drop a new bind on account currency(that you can move between alts). Perhaps the end boss of a high level dungeon can drop a few too? We can revisit this part after reading the rest.
This currency can be exchanged for a small amount of gold(to let legitimate non RMT people sustain themselves through raiding like GDKP did) at some vendor. NOTE: this would NOT work the other way around, we would NOT be able to buy the currency with gold.
With each new raid we slightly raise the amount of this currency dropped by bosses and the gold we can redeem it for(to sort of simulate the inflation gold goes through anyways).
New in-game interface where items get bid for using the new currency just like GDKP used to. When a player wins an item his currency gets removed and added to the pot. The pot gets split in the same fashion a GDKP pot would get split with bonuses for the raid leader/healers/tanks/highest dps potentially. NOTE: any bonuses would have to be agreed by the entire group BEFORE the raid starts(again in the interface) maybe via checking a box? “Do you agree to the following split?” and you would press yes or no.
Leaving early or getting removed(this needs a bit more thinking) would remove you from the split at the end. NOTE: perhaps the remaining players could vote to allow the player to get his currency mailed his way(in case it’s a genuine power shortage or IRL emergency etc).
Looking forward to what people think about this because I believe a system like this would win over all the legitimate GDKP enjoyers and then the GDKP haters would rest assured traditional GDKP stays banned with virtually no support left behind it(apart from the swipers which are the minority).
the problem with the idea, and i get what u are trying to do, but Blizzards stated main reason to ban GDKP isnt RMT, its the social aspect of joining guilds, and having that old school feeling in the raids and guilds.
if u played vanilla, u know what that means. if u joined wow in some itteration of retail, after TBC, u really dont and they want u to get that expereience.
they dont want a lootsystem to make pugs viable and popular. they want that to be a very limited thing.
That’s one reason and they did specifically mention RMT. Why would you cherry pick the part that suits your narrative?
This is a direct quote from a blue post about their reasons.
“It’s also undeniable that GDKP contributes to and drives a lot of illicit activity, such as real-money trading (RMT) and botting, as it creates a demand for in-game gold that would not otherwise exist. GDKP can create an “arms race” effect that encourages participating players to purchase gold to be able to compete for the best items.”
What the part that has no mention of being the main reason and is smaller in comparison to the second part?
“However, we’ve been concerned that GDKP erodes traditional guild and social structures that are in many cases the basis of our most fond memories of early versions of World of Warcraft.”
Only reason people “sustained” themselves through GDKP is the result of the RMT and BOTS so no, there is no need to sustain anything through raiding, people should raid to get items and not gold (in fact you should spend your gold to do raids in form of consumes repair and so on).
U should go mine herb / craft / grind mobs to sustain gold.
Gold sustainment through gdkp was a direct result of a massive gold influx because of bots that was promoted by RMT in GDKPs.
Aka your gold will not be paid by some oiler and transfered through your time spent in GDKPs where you don’t get any items.
If you have a fully geared char and don’t need anything from a raid , simply dont raid until next tier comes out or level alt, or do world pvp and so on.
There is no need for you to spend time raiding if only thing that makes you raid is potential of getting gold.
Nor should blizz reward any meaningful amount of gold for ppl who think running 30mins raid per lockout should be anything close as rewarding as some guy that is herbing for 4hours a day.
What idea? I don’t have any ideas I’m just pointing out that you basically said the main reason has nothing to do with RMT, when they specifically stated that it did.
Your idea is that blizz didn’t want people to participate in PUGs for raiding so that’s why they banned GDKP to force everyone into guild runs.
RMT will always be present in wow and people will always find a way on to spend gold even if they ban GDKP.
More problem was a massive wave sus people who were making gdkp and kicking people from grp not giving them cut so the whole grp could get more gold.
How I see every random gdkp has the same issue, someone on whose chars back wheel will be a break sacrifice player for more cuts among 9 people. And will provide some lame excuse as you die on a boss, you did not buy an item that is not your bis but we force u anyway. Your trolling did not buff me…etc
People start to be so much greedy and beyond imagination sod is a peak of toxic, scam people. Many reports was made on a daily basis about ninja cut and log out or kicking people without being given gold.
you’re describing random trade chat GDKP by people without logs.
as with every pug you should do a bare minimum of research as a player before you go to one. established GDKPs can’t afford to do this sort of stuff or they would get a bad rep.
my point is you’re talking about 1% of cases
Well I see my discord server spaming all day about kicking people from gdkp runs etc
Not everyone have premade organized gdkp runs kek Average people more play this game and average people dont do premade gdkps xd
Only good people have already premade gdkp and stick with one grp of people and at end of it is not even standard gdkp lol
