And i swear, PVP would drastically improve in participation if

  • Remove Shadowmeld
  • Redesign Cyclone into a normal Crowd Control
  • Remove the slow from Entropic Rift
  • Remove Garrote Silence from Assassination Rogue
  • Lower BM Hunters damage a little further

and i swear, PVP would drastically improve in participation

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You forgot

  • Make fistweaver unviable
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I really have never understood why people are so mad about cyclone

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Because they only play 2v2 that’s why. In 3s it’s not as opressive. Also average player is very bad at interrupting.

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The truth is

it would simply drastically improve if

  • Somebody with any sort of power read these forums

Me neither until I rolled a new druid. In low lobbys people basically let you clone free even if you are standing next to them.

With the lower damage that allows hots to actually heal someone up while the druid does other things, it feels really strong to just free cast clones.

But try this past duellist and tell me how that goes lol

also weird usually its priest player crying about it

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remove 1 of the 100 blinks mages have

that would be nice too

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How about we lower it to be as low as ferals and balance? Would that be ok? Or are we not allowed to talk about that?

because they are bad and not paying attention so they end up cloned and angry :rage:

No good player has ever unironically complained about cyclone

Mainly because player dont like to breathe for a second and just want to face smash roflstomp over their keyboard while their fury/bm/enhance whatever character roflstomp faceroll over the enemy^^

ppl kick some of the weirdest stuff at lower ratings, dont pay attention on anything that isnt in their tunnelvision.

specially when there is a way bigger offender… Dk’s, they haven’t been beaten enough. Blood dk still s tier with bm xD

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Because on paper it is by far the most powerful crowd control ability in the game.
The fact its still undispellable to this day is probably the most ridiculous part.
Even if it was dispellable it’d still be the most powerful casted cc in the game because of its “not breaking on damage” and preventing heals mechanics.

Even in Warcraft 3 you could dispell cyclone lol

Feral can’t damage you while being 2 pillars away, neither balance, so how about no ?

Priest can dispell it

Yay a 2 minute casted cooldown can dispel a spammable CC, you got him there!

This is like saying every physical stun is dispellable because a Paladin can BoP it or sanc it.

:roll_eyes: :roll_eyes:

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^Basically this.

Listen, every time a Druid spec is strong Cyclone becomes a problem. Its always like that and always been like that which pushes me to believe that the fact Cyclone is so powerful is very harmful to the entireity of the Druids class design.

It makes absolutely no sense for it to be undispellable and never did.

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If you let a druid spam clones, I dont know.

Feral has no haste, so you only have a hard time to stop it once during heart

Rdruid has no haste, and has literally no time to clone as their healing is shi

Balance only specc with fast clones, not meta relevant

Iam sorry, if someone spams clones, you missplayed

  1. I am not complaining about Cyclone, I was pointing out your cringey attempt at arguing semantics/trying to be clever.

  2. Have you ever played against Feral Mage as a Shadow Priest?

BM cant rotate clone on 3 targets every 15 seconds, and has nowhere near the defensive or sustain of both.

May I ask why you’re yapping so much about BM in an arena section when your arena peak achievement is 1750 from 2021?

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Removing clone is like removing deathgrip/chains of ice from dk.

The only problem I ever had with clone was having all druid specs having access to it.
Specs like boomy/guardian and rdruid need clone however I see no reason why feral should have it.

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