Another expensive mount

[Elaynne-ravencrest (Elaynne)]

Well there is no reason we can’t have both. I still need Nightfallen carpet.

[Sandsh-draenor]

@Jito-turalyon

But if that’s the answer for 99.99% of the players, why even introduce these mounts for such expensive prices in the first place?

But it’s not 0,01% that can afford them, it’s closer to 25% (though not everyone who has the gold, will buy them).

@Jito-turalyon

It’s a lot of mounts devoted to that very small segment of players who can realistically afford them.

Only a very tiny amount of the mount selection are expensive gold vendor mounts. Also, those who do not have much gold, even fairly new 120’s who started in BfA and don’t have tons of alts/friends/professions/etc could start farming for it and have it in a fairly reasonable time frame as well, it just isn’t thrown at them on a silver platter.

@Jito-turalyon

Surely that development effort could create more enjoyment for more players if the mounts were more realistically available to them.

The mount itself is not the point of it being there, the price is, the mount is merely the carrot. It’s a gold sink.

They add a ton of new mounts every expansion, do you really think people will enjoy the game more if they add 41 instead of 40 mounts that don’t involve a gold price ?

That one extra mount is there to serve another purpose and it needs to be pricey and have a unique model to accomplish that.

@Jito-turalyon

No one is getting a more fun game experience by choosing not to buy the mounts they would like to have.

Actually, i would argue that people generally don’t get much long term satisfaction out of things that are just given to them for very little effort. Most players treasure things that took them time and effort to attain.

Nobody who started playing the game in the recent expansions spends much time gawking at his mount speed increases as he pays off the flight trainer, but almost all the people who had to farm the 5k gold orso for epic flying in TBC, which likely took them some weeks, sure did.

[Shallowbrook-ravencrest]

@Sandsh-draenor

it’s closer to 25% (

Can you show me a source on that please.

[Vintoleth-ghostlands (Vintoleth)]

@Waygos-kazzak

Not all of us are rich with gold!

i doubt “many” are currently. there just isn’t a reliable way to get steady gold atm.

@Elinnore-silvermoon

It’s mostly a gold sink to deflate the economy.

One can also argue that its high price is to sell more WoW tokens.

im not overly sure the economy needs to be deflated atm? i could be wrong, but i think people who had gold dont have anywhere near as much as they did at start of BfA.

and yeah, with such silly decisions always being made by blizz, a rational persona cant HELP but think this is about wow tokens.

@Wikibear-draenor

dont want to be “that guy” but 500g…preaty easy to get it .
Even if you are not rich or dont like to farm it you can just geting slow gold:) by selling junk and stuff.

500K i hope you mean? but even 500K takes a bit of time. only steady way to get gold is farm legacy instances, and tbh i expect blizz to nerf boss gold and item vendor value soon everything else relies on the luck of getting your hands on an item, and the luck of being able to sell it a good price.

@Punyelf-draenor

I haven’t been able to afford many of the more expensive mounts in the game. They are gold sinks but they aren’t going anywhere so we can still make gold at a snail’s pace and buy them later.

lets hope they’re not going anywhere, but my bank balance is going somewhere, down unless they add some gold making method back, this snail’s pace is taken place on a moving treadmill

@Punyelf-draenor

They seem to have gone from one extreme to the other. We had loads of income available to us in Warlords and Legion and now they’ve stopped all that.

yes. and i think this seems evident in so much of the game, from class balance, to the “good expansion, bad expansion” 2 teams theory. it is all about extremes. blizz cant seem to do anything gently :\

@Sandsh-draenor

Unless there’s foul play involved that i am not aware off, blizzard doesn’t directly make that much money of the wow tokens. because for every player that buys a token to get gold, there is a player paying for a month sub without giving them real money.

but a token is only 1 month game time, for nearly the cost of a 2 month time card. so you would need 2 tokens for 2 months, which would be a profit of £16.

unless you have a MASSIVE amount of gold, tokens dont make sense now, and i dont know why they cost so much.

• A) its cheaper getting game time with a timecard/sub than a token (£17 vs £9.99)
• B) if you want anything on the shop (mounts/pets/services) its still cheaper buying buying game time (which now becomes blizz balance first),
• C) tokens are only worth buying for gold if you have a real mountain of gold and dont want to give blizzard RL money.

[Shumensko-azjolnerub (Shumensko)]

Don’t tell me you like grinding for it for 3 years.

[Elaynne-ravencrest (Elaynne)]

Grinding? No, just doing missions for rep tokens.

[Shumensko-azjolnerub (Shumensko)]

Semantics. Doing the same missions every days a year into the new expansion definitely classifies as grinding.

[Shallowbrook-ravencrest]

Just noticed i still need 3 i need one from Lightforged aswell sad days.

[Raiden-stormscale (Raiden)]

maybe by the time Classic comes out WOW token will go up to 400K

[Bukachu-ravencrest]

cant wait for 8.2 to start so I can sell boosts for decent price again and make a decent amount of gold so i can afford a mount or two smh!

[Elaynne-ravencrest (Elaynne)]

Not that early. Few months into Classic when people start buying gold on Classic using BFA tokens they will.

[Shallowbrook-ravencrest]

Ela do you know any good social guilds on RC ive just moved there any help for an old Karazhan friend

[Jito-turalyon (Jito)]

@Sandsh-draenor

Actually, i would argue that people generally don’t get much long term satisfaction out of things that are just given to them for very little effort. Most players treasure things that took them time and effort to attain.

Sure, but the path to getting these expensive mounts is increasingly becoming one of three:

A) You flip items on the Auction House day after day after day to earn lots of gold.

B) You whip out your credit card and buy some WoW Tokens and sell them in-game for gold.

C) You no-life and join a hardcore community and start boosting players in PvE or PvP for gold.

If there was an option D) that was about playing the game normally, doing World Quests, Dungeons, Raids, Battlegrounds and leveling new alts, then the effort part of obtaining these mounts would feel great and rewarding and satisfying. But Blizzard have designed the normal game activities in such a way that they don’t reward very much gold relative to the increasingly high prices of the mounts. You’re never going to be a WoW millionaire if you spend your time doing Random Battlegrounds or Warfronts.

So there’s little satisfaction behind these mounts, when the path to getting them doesn’t involve letting players do the things in the game that are fun and popular.

[Elaynne-ravencrest (Elaynne)]

Don’t really know any social guilds. Why do you want social and not raiding one?

[Shallowbrook-ravencrest]

Limited time but i will once on poke you on tag

[Bukachu-ravencrest]

@Dottie-thunderhorn

Ok, stupid question time: Why would Blizzard want to remove gold from the game?

because blizzards unprofessional dev team butchered economy
just look at Venezuela example where people have kilograms of paper money to keep it short, that was the future of wow if we had WoD/Legion economy system, where everyone’s getting gold for not even logging in to wow on PC

second issue is gold is limited to 10 million per character i think

3rd issue is some people had TOOOOOO much gold while some had none, and bridge would only have bigger break point with time.

just in time they’re trying to fix it.

but all in all its the “everyone should have everything” mentality that butchered this game a lot imo. reminds me of something from history

[Macillidan-draenor]

@Sandsh-draenor

The gold supply in-game does not get affected by token sales (though some of it does effectively realm transfer).

Actually yeah you are correct. I was too hasty in my response I was under the illusion it was created.

But the main point does still stand. Gold is being generated somewhere in vast sums (unless this was truly just from WoD still) to still create vast amounts of inflation.

Take the 110-120 boost runs. I heard last night someone was paying 10k per run, compared to legion where it was just 2k per run. Thats a 500% increase in a single xpac and other things too were high in price only recently falling.

So the gold is being created somewhere, unless as I say this is truly from WoD mission tables, and if so, will the mounts be reduced in price when and if we get to a point gold becomes more scarce again.

[Shumensko-azjolnerub (Shumensko)]

@Bukachu-ravencrest

3rd issue is some people had TOOOOOO much gold while some had none, and bridge would only have bigger break point with time.

Yeah, that’s how free market works. If you had been selling boosts for the last 4-5 years, you’d be one of the rich.

[Valkiá-argent-dawn (Valkiá)]

@Elinnore-silvermoon

It’s mostly a gold sink to deflate the economy.

One can also argue that its high price is to sell more WoW tokens.

Why not both?

[Bukachu-ravencrest]

@Shumensko-azjolnerub

Yeah, that’s how free market works. If you had been selling boosts for the last 4-5 years, you’d be one of the rich.

nah you me wrong.
the issue isnt some people have too much gold while others dont
the issue is some people could have WAYYYYY more gold, than others without even logging in to the game