Another PI thread

Hasn’t been any for some time and today in Sweden we say its “little Saturday” (lil-lördag) so technically this is a weekend thread

Power infusion is a really really really cool concept but at the same time it is like one of my friends said “its like a dopamine boost and you just want more of it”. Can we please make this spell just be a personal spell rather than something you give to someone else? (Not talking about shadow priests). It has a big chance of causing drama and it’s just an annoying thing.

And don’t get me wrong I see the pros of spells like this but I also believe that the cons are greater than the pros.

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There are already a few options on how to handle PI depending on the type of Priest one wants to be. Personally, I’m always happy about Chaotic-Evil priests in my group.

Though memes aside, I generally think that PI has the potential to bring a lot of toxicity into the game. I enjoyed the the conversations about it on the warcraftlogs twitter.

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When I played my priest for a bit I always forgot about Power Infusion… I’ll let you figure out how that worked out hahaha

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I like that I can give it to someone else.

I rarely ever need it for myself playing my priest.

Watching an arcane mage freak out over his DPS on ingra just because I gave him PI right when he’s going to burst was funny, he did like 40k dps.

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I either cast it on myself, the highest DPS, or forget entirely.

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Disc priest in my guild has made a deal with a boomkin that she gives him pi when he wants and he gives her innervate when she wants :slight_smile:

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From my experience in raiding, most people just want it for themselves no matter how much they gain and regardless of someone else potentially gaining significantly more out of it. Like I would ask why it’s going to a boomie or a hunter when we have 2 demo locks. Even when I asked for it to be given to the other lock who isn’t me, people get mad at me for trying to argue that it’s much more value on the a warlock than them.

Give it to the other warlock for all I care, just don’t waste it on a class that barely gets half the benefit.

It needs to go.

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This is one of the few situations where Neutral Evil and Chaotic Good is the same. Surely I always cast PI on my self doing solo content, but I also cast it on the lowest DPS player when doing group content. And now, what kind of DPS does the least damage? The healer themselves, of course! - thus yet another self cast.

tbh i love buffs you can give to others like innervate or pi, we need more of that stuff not less. :smile:

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PI has single handedly ruined some classes.

Just looking at the stats shows you the vast difference between getting 5 PIs dumped on you versus 0 on sylv fight.

Should be made self cast on the user.

Neutral evil here.

You no take PI!

I loved in the old game that many debuffs boosted multiple players’, if not an entire raid’s DPS.
Looks at Gift of Arthas chugged by the MT
Granted, these are buffs, but we need more than just a static 5% int/stam/AP buff to boost each other. These gave a lot of flavor to our game.

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true. i also loved randomly buffing people when i saw them. they were usually thankful. nowadays it rarely happens, which makes me sad. its like they have removed a social interaction in the game.

also, give me back motw! :sob: feeling so naked without it.

tbh i wished there was a “support” class which could buff people/groups instead of healing or so. like trying to keep the morale high. :smile:

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PTSD from 40-man raiding as a paladin. Blessings… So many blessings used every raid.

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Pally was the support spec in vanilla, and because it had pretty much no rotation and had the lowest DPS, all it could do is get improved blessings and keep tossing them on raid members while judging every 10 seconds.

But since having more than 1 pally was quite useless… this buffing support gameplay was slowly nerfed with TBC (Crusader Strike, Seal twisting) and Wrath (“969” tank rotation, Divine Storm with a reset mechanic from T10), to make the class acceptable in most endgame environment.

I do miss their blessings from retail. 41 MP5 may not have been much but every bit mattered against a tough foe.

I would love class buffs tbh. But more shared class buffs so that you don’t need to have a very set comp for raid bosses.

Giving pi to venthyr moonkins is just correct, similar to how giving innervate to disc priests is just correct. A disc spends 30-40% of their total mana during the 15 seconds of pre evangelism ramp. Resto druid comes close to that during their incarn, but they have their own innervate on the same CD as incarn has.

That being said, stuff such as PI is just to feel good. I don’t think our guild has wiped even once, during this entire mythic progression, on an enrage mechanic where there weren’t multiple dead players during an extended period of time. DPS is incredibly irrelevant for raiding. You could probably kill every boss with your entire raid having green logs throughout, as long as every mechanic is executed properly.

PI is quite annoying regarding who gets it and who doesn’t, because everybody wants it.

People get pissed when they don’t get it, or when people who they think “don’t deserve it” get it.

It’s just yet another fuel for toxicity that we genuinely didn’t need. Same goes for kyrian dps druids and night fae paladins.

I’m currently rotating between players who want PI week by week and during progression I’ve given it to whoever my raidlead told me to give it to. It’s still obnoxious and not a fun spell to use, due to the dissonance it causes.

I almost always forget about it.

But I don’t main priest anymore.

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