I don’t even know you. I don’t think we ever spoke before.
How can you judge a person like this? Only because I win Bgs?
You guys are losing your sanity.
Larkus is not the only one at my side, many others are, and it’s great company.
I know how ur playing bgs. U love to wreck everything in ashran , u love to stretch it and i killed u twice on ur schami . The isle, there u were cutting off every possible way for ppl to escape and IF some did manage to go out of base , u had ppl outside waiting for them . I could tell a lot more … much more .
You sure you’re not mistaken with someone else, that kinda sounds like someone that generally plays as a druid and sits in base 24/7 
U mean simonea ?
Not just him, a handful.
These are strategies/tactics to win a Bg.
Like all good leaders, when they try to win a Bg, especially an Epic Bg, they come up with ideas and tactics. There is nothing weird or wrong with that.
That’s nothing mate, that’s just Bgs.
I don’t even know when was the last time I played my Shaman even.
But cmon you can’t be mad at tactics.
Ah ok. Iam not playing much anymore
Pandora what is wrong with u? Thats not tactic , its more keeping players from playing the game . Not even rezal done such nasty stuff . Annnnd he had the guts to go on his own into bgs , not often but he did.
It’s fine if you find this playstyle unenjoyable or unappealing. However, personal preference for something being ‘lame and boring’ doesn’t inherently make it unfair or against the spirit of the game. Fairness in a game isn’t defined by the players. It’s defined by the rules the game sets. As long as players are operating within those rules, their playstyle is legitimate. QSyncing is just another playstyle within the rules, and it’s up to players to adapt and overcome.
As far as I know, you’re not the ones making the rules, so nobody cares if you find something unfair, since that’s your personal opinion and not facts.
It may seem reductive, but even if it boils down to just that, so what? The moment you position yourselves as the absolute arbiters of truth, dictating what is acceptable and what isn’t, it’s quite bold to criticize others for not elaborating when there’s no need to. It’s amusing to see that what you do is considered acceptable by you, but what others do isn’t, and you wish to impose your view without considering the rules established by the game.
The difference is that we impose nothing, we work with what we have. Specifically, we have the right to QSync if we want to. If that becomes prohibited tomorrow, so be it. In the meantime, we are within the rules. You create your own as if your word held any particular significance.
At no point did I say it was acceptable for you to be insulted or harassed by other players, but once again, since you don’t seem to understand, just because the so-called “fair play” players are fed up doesn’t give them the right to act as they do. (And if you’ve grasped the concept of fair play, you’ll understand there’s no such thing as a “fair play side”).
The point isn’t to have a competition over who gets harassed the most; it happens on both sides. What I mainly criticized in your initial post was pointing fingers only at the harassment coming from premade players, without acknowledging that there’s harassment from those who share your views as well. Insults and toxic behavior are prevalent on this issue from all sides.
Even if you were right, I don’t see how my lack of empathy is relevant here, especially when you yourself seem to struggle with seeing things from another’s perspective and I have to constantly remind you to broaden your view. But let’s avoid a pointless competition of “I’m more empathetic than you!”, that’s beside the point.
You want to steer the discussion in a factually incorrect direction that suits your agenda of demonizing something that isn’t inherently bad. At that point, no meaningful discussion can take place. You’ll always start from a definition of the term that suits you, while I am referring to its true definition.
The fact that they regularly face premades doesn’t change whether it’s unfair or not. Again, people are free to complain if they want, and they can create as many threads as they like to voice their complaints. Why not, after all? But complaining does not equate to imposing a mentality or a viewpoint like you’re trying to do.
There are a lot of players who would also say that 1 group premade is unfair, but because you do it (or did it, or whatever), it’s fine.
I assume I don’t need to re-explain the difference between you imposing your viewpoint while we adhere to Blizzard’s, since I’m well aware you’ll read what I’ve replied to Wiplala.
It’s also normal for some people not to like premades, regardless of whether they’re few or many. However, that doesn’t give them the right to exhibit hateful behavior, just as premade players shouldn’t display hateful behavior towards those who dislike premades.
It’s simply a matter of perspective, and until proven otherwise in our case, even though we have diametrically opposed opinions, it doesn’t prevent us from speaking to each other in a civilized manner (although last time we discussed, you put me on your KoS list when you got fed up, but it’s more amusing than anything since we both know nothing will come of it).
I don’t think my “fun” is in any danger. Far from it. Given how Blizzard operates, having previously banned things I enjoyed that were “borderline”, I know full well that forum posts have little impact on their decision-making. Even if they did, so be it!
I come here because I find it interesting. Some of you provide insights that help build a broader perspective (which can be useful given how some view me as a monstrous antipathic figure), while others offer nothing constructive and usually leave as quickly as they arrived. And of course, there are those who can’t conduct themselves properly and feel the need to insert insults into every sentence.
I am deeply convinced that what I am doing is fair, and by definition, it is. We could certainly find a more accurate term to describe having fun at the expense of other players, but “unfair” doesn’t fit here. In any case, as long as there is PvP interaction, there will always be some who enjoy it and others who do not. If QSync is banned one day, players will find another scapegoat to complain about… It’s not as if some people specialize in that.
First, the fact that many players complain doesn’t make their opinion “objectively” correct. Secondly, I have nothing against people complaining. I don’t care, and it’s not like it’s going to change anything. What I’ve said is that I am against defending those who behave poorly by insulting or harassing others, justifying their actions with their supposed anger.
There is no such thing as a more acceptable form of toxicity than others.
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Some teams are stronger than others.
I also lose to stronger teams. And they don’t let me play.
So what?
Just chiming in to point out this statement which I find kinda ironic 
Now please do go on
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…I didn’t mention this as any argument I merely gave my reason why I quit with it back then.
About what you wrote to Jay;
It’s for us no problem to 1v1 or 2v2 up to 2v10 others, premade or not, and we love to add you to the list of our qsync corpse flags. https://imgur.com/a/Qxkt3Rx
You (syncers) keep on talking about rules. Which rules? There are no rules around synced premades, because synced premading is something created entirely outside of the game. Again, for joining any bg you can join with 1 party of 5 maximum, and not with a raid group. It’s clear why. If you really want to play with all of your online ‘friends’ at the same time then go do a raid together. But you already admitted in the forums so often you guys only want easy ‘pvp’ farm games of randoms where no actual pvp is involved. You know you are ruining the game with it, but for many years you don’t care.
I can’t add anything more to this though, and the rest of what you write is for me unworthy of a response atm, unfortunately! It takes too much time for me, and I prefer to put this time into something which I actually like to do. I made my point, you can have your opinion about it, I don’t care for it either. Lastly, I don’t lose a minute of sleep over any of this, yet I do sometimes feel the need to come up for the thousands of people who come into epics (alone, or with max 4 others as intended), write in the instance chat how fed up they are with another premade farm and/or leave again disillusioned and eventually don’t want to join at all anymore.
Have a nice weekend. xxx
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It’s good to know who hates you,
and it’s good to be hated by the right people.
Since it seems that you decide what is right or wrong based on what you like (e.g 5 men premades are fine — btw I do 5 men premades), that’s probably one of the reasons you’re against it.
Good for you if you see it as a game where you hunt down players you don’t like, after all, why not?
Sure, the game was originally designed for smaller groups to queue together, but the reality is that QSyncing has become part of how the game has evolved. It’s not explicitly banned by the game’s mechanics, nor by the game’s rules, which means players have found ways to use the system to team up in larger groups. If the developers really thought this was damaging to the game’s integrity, they would have put specific rules in place to stop it.
I remember that Pandora provided several examples of methods that could completely eradicate QSync on the previous thread, it’s not like it’s impossible to do, far from that.
As for the claim that we only want ‘easy farm games’, that’s a bit of an oversimplification. Sure, some players enjoy dominating a match, but a lot of us just want to play with our friends and enjoy the teamwork that comes with it. The game is meant to be fun for a wide variety of playstyles, and QSyncing is just one of them.
You can think it’s false if you want, but as far as I’m concerned, in the community I’m part of, what keeps people playing for years is mainly the general good atmosphere and the lack of toxicity. I don’t see why premade players should have to switch to PvE just because you’ve decided it’s more acceptable.
It’s interesting that you’re choosing to step away from the debate now, especially since you’ve consistently engaged so deeply with this topic. You mentioned preferring to spend your time on other things, but it’s clear this is something you’re feeling concerned, given how many of your forum posts are focused on it.
When someone puts in the effort to provide thoughtful and detailed responses, it seems more productive to continue the discussion rather than leaving due to “time constraints”. It could be that the points I’ve raised are more challenging to address, considering they involve not just opinions but also facts.
Of course, if you prefer not to respond, I understand. It’s certainly easier to move on than to delve further into a debate that questions a strongly held position.
Best of luck to you. Given your usual activity on this forum, I hope to see you in the next thread about premades to continue this conversation, if you find some time, of course.
It is INSANE how you literally don’t understand a SINGLE point, just talking talking talking with ZERO sense.
Exactly this is why so many people already gave up talking to people like you. 
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No disrespect, but do people really bother queueing Epic BGs/Random BG once they have their honor set?
Yup, there are many people enjoying BGs as the main content, sadly there are also these people we talk about here who love to ruin it for most of us.
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There is a reason why I said that person is pretty horrible at arguing.
I read bad arguing, but the way that person argues, is like a politician trying to explain why being corrupt is good.
The amount of “only me matters” is reeking.
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It’s a less classy and less subtle way of evading the discussion compared to your friend, but it was clear that if she stopped, you would too. I expected better than a dismissive response from you tho.
If you compare what I’m doing to defending corruption, I strongly encourage you to learn what corruption actually is, you’ll quickly understand why this isn’t the case. If you can’t see why I say this, I invite you to read the posts I’ve written above (you probably didn’t), and if you still don’t understand (we never know), I’ll be happy to explain.
It’s rather amusing that you say this in a context where you’re defending two people who think they can impose their viewpoint based on whether they agree with something or no…