Well, he was war mode on, and we were doing the world quests while qing for random bgs and we ran into him. We were 4 btw, not 7. And I was barely dismounting. It’s war mode, World PvP, or is not even this allowed?
I’m now sad I didn’t pick this Community name.
From what I see here, there is harassment and inappropriate behavior on both sides, but the ones who are quickest to insult are not the so-called ‘evil’ syncers. Just look at how people talk about players who play with Pandora or Larkus, or how some people feel entitled to talk about Pandora (more harshly than Larkus, but that’s probably because she’s a woman, so some feel more comfortable lashing out).
And the fact that some people’s gaming experience is ‘affected’ by premade players does not in any way justify violent behavior.
It might be wise to step out of this tunnel vision you’re in and acknowledge that there are toxic people everywhere, and whether they support premades or not doesn’t change that.
Now, this kind of thread is public, and therefore open to debate. If you want to have a discussion among yourselves without anyone disagreeing with you, then you can have a little chat on Discord where you can reinforce each other’s biases, and at least you’ll all come out satisfied.
However, just as players can’t objectively be banned from complaining on the forum, they can also be responded to when others disagree with them.
I hope it’s not the case, but if you consider someone not sharing your opinion as harassment, then a serious reevaluation might be necessary. Similarly, if forum topics affect you to this extent, or if premade players are harming you to the point that it makes you ‘suffer,’ some self-reflection will also be necessary.
Thank you for this.
It does not happen often that a player steps out and analyses this situation rationally, with neutral eyes.
The amount of hatred and offenses me and my Community are receiving is insane, and unjustified. We are paying a subscription to play this game, as much as anyone else, and we are not breaking any rules by playing Bgs in a premade.
Some people disagree with this playing style and they feel entitled to offend and belittle.
We got accused of pretty much anything, without any proofs.
Some of you may not believe this, and we don’t care, but I play with my friends, since LEGION. It has been always me and my group playing Bgs together (Dex, Worz, Iksy - now Recaim and Eondra), and again, me and my group created our PvP Community together.
We kill people in WM ON and we get called toxic.
We queue for bgs and we get called boosted and toxic.
We get Hero and people offend our title and call us boosted.
We do random Bgs and they tell us to go do rated - we do rated and they call us boosted.
My name is everywhere, cause of my honor level (??? who cares) and cause I’m a woman.
You guys hate just as hobby.
You don’t care about getting better at the game, you want that others come down to your level or to your game mentality and style to make you happier.
We need to play like you want, so you’re happier.
Self-reflection is required here.
You can call us horrible things, demonise us, offend us, call us cheaters, boosters and boosted, and disrespect anyone who play with us - and I call you cry babies.
The anti-premaders are definitely much worse. Not only do they harass in the forum and in the game those who sync premades, they also constantly harass those who play in groups of 5 people.
For example, certain mage name shaming people in his stream. He insulted me after one of his tantrums without even having been in the game in that moment.
Or people in my group receiving whispers from sick people like this:
https://imgur.com/OH6QSoX
ok dont cry, we support you, if thats not enough we can buy you a cafe
buy me a coffee .com/pandorawow
You do realize that by continuing with this kind of message, you’re actually proving us right, which is pretty counterproductive for your “friends”.
You guys cry.
Legit every day.
Multiple times a day.
And you’re convinced that we have no rights to reply here.
You’re also sponsorising me, does my page bother you so much or do you love it?
I don’t know what it is anymore; the line that separates hate from love is very thin and it fades into obsession easily.
You guys seem obsessed.
For too long they have created an echo chamber in the forum.
wtf? im not allowed to support you? when i criticize you, you cry, when i support you, you cry!
what should I do?
Support me dude! Go go!
You, as a syncer, come with the term biased? I can place myself in both situations. In fact I even very shortly played with Larkus end 2020 when i came back to the game after 11 years break and I didnt realise what I was actually doing. (Then I personally found this very lame and boring and quit with it fast.) I also know people, who played in synced premades for a longer time. Fortunately, we came to our senses. But anyway, being biased or not has really nothing to do with the fact that it’s still not fair play like you know, no matter how badly you want to distract from it, and no matter how some people still don’t seem to understand it or at least act like it.
Also funny how you speak about openly debating, while the syncers only ever say they will never stop and that’s it. Then get the half community to like their posts and just continue with ruining the fun for casual and/or random players who play alone or in a small group. Yeah, until there are more specific rules against it, then they all will obey apparantly.
You wanna talk about toxicity? I got in this forum called horrible names by Iksynator for no reason at all. This epic sync player is by far the most violent person on the forum. Just read back. Even though he sometimes even creates and deletes chars especially for it. A certain Italian streamer gets a lot of trash poored over him here on the forum, mostly by… epic syncers. And when I said 1 nice thing about him in the stream of a certain Russian streamer, I got insulted for this by a certain… epic sync balance druid, and then my posts got removed by a certain guardian druid epic syncer while the insult to me wasnt removed, because of the nice double standards reason ;). Btw, the same Russian streamer (known for syncing) frequently tries to get ppl to (mass)report others in the bg who dont do anything wrong just because he doesnt like them. On stream even: https://imgur.com/OH6QSoX
(got the screenshot from some1 else, but please Priskah feel free to post the full pic /Sarcasm off). Over the whole bg he had to remove constantly the afk debuff by staying in combat, until the boss fight. Hunting randoms they see in BGs, who are against syncpremades in the forums, hoping that it would stop them from sharing a different opinion again. And so on.
I wouldnt say one side is more quick to insult. But I would say being on the fair play side has more reasons to get mad by far. I hope I dont again have to explain why…
The point, like I said, is that on top of all this toxicity which is anyways there (and is in this case caused BY syncing premades in the first place, so please), comes the fact that sync queing is again not fair play, and therefore toxic af enough on its own already. If you still are unable to put yourself in the shoes of some1 else to understand why this is toxic, then I give up.
And stop calling people all the time crybabies, obsessed, etc, that’s toxic as well. I know empathy is not your strongest point. Furthermore let’s keep it to the topic of the post and not divert from the fact that epic syncing is unfair play. If you can explain me why it is not unfair, go ahead. Thanks
And do you ever come on the idea that the side who starts to get mad first is ofc the side which gets unfair treated?
People don’t complain about synced premades because they encounter them once or twice and start to make threads on the Forum about it, no, they encounter them every single day for a long period of time at any time of the day, which ofc at one point makes them mad because they cant play the game.
So you literally complain here about the people who complain about you, AFTER you ruin their fun and then wonder why they have a problem with you.
Ofc there are everywhere toxic people, doesnt matter if in the game or IRL, and?
It’s still a fact that the synced premade players are with what they do the ones who start this toxic cycle in the game and Forum. Like I said, If YOU would not ruin the game time for so many other people that pay the same amount of money for the game like yourself by making them unable to play the content they like the most or only in the game, then no1 would have a reason to complain here in the forum or ingame.
But no, only because you pay for the game you take the right to ruin others fun that actually are at the same hight like you when it comes to the rights because they pay also not more not less.
And think about how it would be for you if you really much enjoy something which you also dont just want to quit because of anything but it gets every day ruined by some other people…you would ALSO be mad or complain at one point when you have enough of it.
No, it is just contradictionary to what many of you said before about the whole topic.
You think what you do is right and no1 can do anything against you and you also dont have to defend what you do, but at the same time you come here daily to read and try to defend your wrong actions.
So either you are scared of that maybe at one point there is something happening which shows it is not right and you see your “fun” in danger, or you feel like you have to defend it.
Self-reflection! Right, that’s exactly what you all should do who are the reason WHY here are hundreds of topics about you, WHY People complain every single day about your activity in the game, WHY you get so much hate from all sides. It has nothing to do with that some1 doesnt share my opinion or the opinion of others, it has something to do with what is “objectively” right or wrong.
But you also understand what neutral is right?
I mean some1 who already confirmed he plays synced premade and supports it by defending it or is in contact with most of you is in NO WAY neutral analysing here anything.
If you want a neutral analysys about the situation get some1 here who doesnt play the game and let him hear both sides while everyone can listen to it without any further influence.
Here you have it, WHY do you receive so much hate and offenses? Because you piss people off in the game every single day with what you do and consider it fun while ruining it for all others at the same time.
Hate comes not from nothing, atleast not that much and especially not that specific.
But yea if here would be some “self-reflection”, then this would not have been written….
Exactly, you pay the same amount of money for the game like everyone else, why do you have then the right to ruin other peoples fun to boost yours, even tho it is not in any way necessary to play the game?
No, you get called toxic for stream sniping some1 and focusing to 99% on this one person over and over again while everyone in the stream can see it.
If you play as a 5 man group sure, like there are nowadays in 8/10 normal bgs 5 man groups anyways and even if not it’s not my point here. But if you feel the need to run down epics with a whole community even tho you could also just do it with 5 ppl then it’s another thing again.
Nope, your name is not everywhere because of honor level or because you are a woman, your name is everywhere because you do something that pisses other people off all the time.
Everyone who plays sync premade gets the same criticism, the only difference is from person to person who they dislike the most because they encounter them the most or have to deal with their behaviour.
I got also insanely much hate when I was playing synced premade and normal premade years ago with whispers after 9/10 bgs in the end, which not only made me name change my character for a while, no, it also helped me realizing that what I was doing was wrong.
And synced premades forcing this “hobby” onto us.
No people who play tryhard and play not the easy mode in epics, are the ones who actually try to get better. While the synced premade players literally just want to make the game a safe win without having to put any effort in it so they have zero improvement in their gameplay.
Again, NO, we want that everyone can play the game WITHOUT having to deal with unfair play or people taking away their fun to boost theirs.
Exactly, but from the opposite side than here stated!
I make it short…and WHY do they cry every day multiple times?
Read above
So much typing. Holy cow. Where do you find the will and the energy to type all this?
Don’t you have better things to do?
We didn’t stream snipe him - we were doing Wqs and my SPY addon told me he was around.
I am not playing Epics recently, I am focusing on other things.
I play Random Bgs with my group, the same way you play Bgs with yours, and will not stop doing this.
If people get pissed off by a game, then maybe there’s something wrong in the way they play it. Others will not change their gaming style just to please whoever cries.
You legit cry daily.
I think somewhere here on the forum there is a post where a GM says it is not against the ToS and the CoC to sync.
Annoying and unfair, but this is PvP; it is always unfair.
People play meta classes because they annhilate other classes (unfair?).
Get over it, PvP is unfair, and victory is based on many different factors.
You elevate yourselves to JUDGES - give yourself the right to decide what is fair to do or not and you think that every single player has your same meter of justice and honor. If you lose and you get pissed and angry and then you run to the forum to release your frustration, this does not make you honorable - you are only trying to defend your hurt ego after a Bg loss.
And asking people to change depending on what makes you happy or satisfied is legit a kindergarden move.
I want everyone to be geared, enchanted, talented well and with the right gear in my Bgs. I want them all to play, communicate, never AFK and play the right specs/classes and roles. Do I make posts complaining about this? Do I make posts asking Blizzard to remove the slackers, the afkers, the undergeared, the unskilled?
You guys are pretty much doing this, do you realise?
You are dictating how others should play so you feel better about yourself and your gaming time.
If Blizzard will state that syncing is against the ToS people will stop.
Blizzard has not stated this, and has never banned people for syncing before.
Do u know why ppl dont like u pandora? It is NOT because ur a woman or ur honor lvl. Have u ever asked urself why .
Tbh I don’t care. Hello? It’s an online world. I am playing a game. Do you guys realise this?
He looks for it. He dedicates himself to name shaming us, who only play in groups of 5, lying about us and insulting on multiple occasions on his live streams, even sending his viewer to /w us.
He doesn’t just attack those who synchronize groups.
Dont worry ur not alone, larkus is just at ur side. By the way iam a woman and no i dont hate u , i just dont find u very nice.