Any hope for fire?

Genuinely wondering if this spec is ever gonna be viable again

Nop , if you take fire to a m+or mythic raid atm you will be flammed for trolling … even aug single target is just an inch from reaching us . Great balance

Watch it get untouched until next patch then we get a minor pyro buff

Then with mechanic bracers and added haste we will be briefly meta leading to us getting nerfed even more

I’m calling it

I’ve been doing +10s without any complaints, but yeah I wouldn’t take Fire any higher than that. I’m doing 1.2-1.4mill overall dps, while Frost is consistently higher at 1.5-1.6mill.

They’re more likely to buff dead talents like Living Bomb again, like they did last time.

I don’t see these being a big issue this time around, the cooldown on FB is so low now especially with the halved cooldown during Combustion, and PF also stacks the mastery buff.

Living bomb is the meta now on m+ fire, because the single target talents don’t give as much benefits as the 5+ living bomb on aoe. Right now fire mage is an aoe spammer and while it can work on teams with fix tank on fix pull. However on pugs when there are smaller pulls because the tank is not sure you fall behind so much in damage as fire. You have no damage without combustion+60% talent. You combu where you cant carry out the extra cd reduction because the fight is over earlier than you combu+hyperthermia, you are done.

Peronally i hope frostfire will get some buffs to be viable because i would like that much more. JUST FORGET LIVING BOMB. EITHER BAKE IT IN OR LEAVE IT, NO ONE LIKES LIVING BOMB RNG CENSORED

Or get him 2 charge of Fire Orb.
Fire Orb
40 yd range
1% of base mana
Instant
Launches an orb of swirling fire up to 40 yds forward which deals up to (222.6% of Spell Power) Fire damage to all enemies it passes through over 15 sec. Deals reduced damage beyond 8 targets. Grants 1 charge of Fingers of Fire when it first damages an enemy
Fire Orb increase all fire spell about 12% While Combustion is not active (for reseting CD for Combustion)