Obviously, I’m hoping, even if almost null, on a dev reply, I get it, the EU forums aren’t exactly known for having blue replies, but how come there’s nothing on the PTR about 8.2? I checked the dates for patches and their PTR versions coming up and usually, as soon as a patch goes live, the next one hits the PTR in max a week or so. In a week, it’s gonna be a month.
Would be lovely if we could have even an estimate.
Now I ain’t dissing.
But enjoy the game right now while its half alive for as long as it lasts.
It may seem like the grass is greener on the other side, but there’s also the possibility this might kill it.
These PTRs have been less bug ironing with the little time they’re up, and more like Early Access 8.2.
I mean, that’s completely, completely out of the scope of what I asked. Not trying to be toxic, just saying. It’s fun to see what’s coming, I’m not going into PTR testing, but it’s nice to see the datamined [insert updates that are coming].
It’s nice to have a preview.
Also, in this case, you’re wrong. The grass is not green on any sides, unfortunately. Unless you’re a casual, this game has nothing to offer for you as of now and me, as well as my friends are hoping for the 8.2 redemption.
I believe that unless they do something with the game right now, they’re going to lose everyone that was loyal.
Strange thing. BFA is very bad for me. I would say, that it’s MOP 2.0, as it tries to revive it’s story arc, while I thought, that we’ve put the end to this story at the end of MOP and beginning of WOD and burned all bridges back to it, but at least MOP had great atmosphere and some reason to play for PVE players, i.e. wasn’t so PVP-biased in terms of story and theme. But problem is - while it’s so bad, Blizzard seem to want to keep it alive for as long, as possible.
And also flying. It’s going to be a year without flying, while Legion had just 7 months, as I remember. I.e. 8.1 was just perfect time to release flying. What that means? If 8.2 won’t be as good, as I expect, I guess, I won’t buy BFA at all and it will become first expansion in Wow’s history, I will get completely for free.
I just want to add this with a joke
“Flying so early killed Legion for me!” Said no one ever.
If anything, it made me play even more.
What content do I expect? Definitely not TI 2.0, that would prove my statement about MOP 2.0. May be packed design is good for PVP, as players just can’t pass each other by, but in PVE mode it’s complete mess. 100 players, farming the same mobs in small area? Is it really RPG, that gives you some sense of doing something meaningful, i.e. purging evil from Azeroth, not just “Whack a mob” game with trying to at least hit constantly respawning mobs?
Strange thing. But Blizzard seem to love exact kind of content, I really hate. They must think about some compromises. They should realize, that some players in their game are PVE players. And if they make content with PVP in mind, they should provide some options for PVE players to play it properly.
Please dont mention MoP in same sentence as this expac.
MoP is one of the best expacs ever you cant compare the two at all.
When PTR has less bugs than the live product /facepalm
First of all: MoP was the best xpac ever made, even better than Wotlk. The pvp gameplay was amazing, every specc was good and had its peaks, arena felt alive and so did the battlegrounds. PvE was challenging and they even introduced the challenge mode (was by far better than the m+ bullsh1t we have right now). The raids were unique, funny to play and rewarding, the endbosses were hard and had good loot.
Second: for Battle for Azeroth being a pvp related addon we see astoundingly less pvp in general. Bgs are a joke and unbalanced af, 99% of my battle.net list is offline since half a year duo to another ap grind and azerite rng tops it all. On top of that we see less pvp then ever. War fronts being pve and arathi basin rumble being against AIs (pveeee).
I’ve never played less in any xpac so far and even quit my abo. I won’t come back, just reading in here sometimes when I’m bored.
This is almost certainly what we’ll get.
Since TI, every expac has had a final zone that is designed to be explored / played in for a long period of time, rather than being just a standard levelling zone. None have succeeded like TI, but they’ve all been trying to follow the same model.
I want the PTR just to know the new azerite system.
It’s probably the most important thing right now, and we still know nothing.
This one is the last roll of the dice as far as Battle for Azeroth is concerned.
I suspect they want to make sure the PTR - which in fact isn’t anything of the sort; it is a pure hype building machine - shows a good impression.
They might want to make sure it has most of the major features in right from the start so there isn’t a complete storm on the forums, because this is the WoW forums.
Screw ptr just give us flying 
That’s all I need from BFA. Launch 8.2 next year I dun mind hehe
I don’t know, where this misconception comes from. May be it’s nostalgia’s tinted glasses effect. Grass was greener and sky was bluer. Or may be current generation of players started to play back in MOP, so they haven’t seen previous expansions. But at MOP’s release it was considered as bad, as BFA now. Exactly due to the same reasons.
Same “Orcs vs Humans” theme and “Garrosh all of a sudden goes mad” story. Just to justify pointless war, i.e. PVP-bias. Same no flying till 90, that ruined alt leveling.
It was first time in Wow’s history, when hour-long mandatory daily grind was implemented. Back in WotLK rep rewards were purely cosmetic and optional and back in Cata players had weekly Valor cap, but in MOP you had daily reps. This meant, skipping just one day of rep grind - falling behind and never be able to catch up. And ALL meaningful rewards were gated behind this reps. I.e., yeah, you still could do dungeon runs and earn Valor, but you couldn’t spend it on any rewards without reps.
Yeah, MOP rep grinds are mostly nerfed now. By +100% books, rares and farm dailies. But back then this rep grind was just crushing. It was causing burnout and quitting from game pretty fast.
And then all this thing with claustrophobic no-flying isles started. I hated such kind of content back in Molten Front days. Why would I start loving it back in MOP? TI was especially bad. May be it was good for PVP, but whole 30k of server population farming exactly the same 10 frogs??? No way it could be enjoyable.
This are the reasons, why MOP was my least played expansion prior to BFA. And it wasn’t just me. Forums were full of complaints from many, many players. Subs kept dropping even further, instead of rising or at least stabilizing. I.e. back then this expansions was considered to be as bad, as BFA now. It was several recent expansions, that turned MOP into relatively good expansion. At least in comparison with them.
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We still don’t have a timeline for the 8.2 PTR, but Blizzard is preparing for the PTR as well as an info dump. Ion used the phrase “so close to being on the PTR.”
Not too long after this, we’re going to have a large info dump for the community and the [public test realm] for Rise of Azshara will start and that’s when we’ll pull back the curtains fully. We’ll have a lot more to talk about in the coming weeks of April through May.
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Started in TBC so your wrong.
Recipes for people only which crafted gear which could be used for alts the rest of gear was sub par and better dropped from raids .
That is a lie it was WOD .
That is a lie you could buy a book for your alts to fly from the start.
WOD only lacked content, cuz it’s development was abandoned. But overall it was the most RPish, casual- and alt-friendly xpack in Wow’s history. So no, it’s not the worst. At least since patch 6.2.
Book? Worked only since 6.1. I had been unsubbed by that time. And also. It was so popular, that I have never been able to actually buy it, despite of trying to do it back in WOD. Simply because I haven’t been ready to pay more, than 10k gold for it.
One thing, I want to say about this interview, is - why haven’t they tried to provide content to both kinds of players? What we have now, isn’t real compromise, because people, who want convenience of flying, need to wait for it for a year and use it in obsoleted content only. Real compromise - is when ground travel fans would sacrifice half of their content (dunno, even 10% would be enough for me, I guess) to please other side.