Anyone else feels like cata is dying?

The game has felt very desolate in the past weeks since classic relaunch. Impossible to fill raids and guilds dying left and right. I think Blizzard should stop splitting the community so much with new wow versions here and there all the time! It would have been better if they shut down cata and made everyone move to classic fresh or didnt launch classic fresh at all. Im not hating im just calling it out!

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Cata is a raid logging expension for most people i would assume.
Can only speak for myself of course, but vanilla is just way more enganging.

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Maybe. Maybe not. You can’t expect a release to thrive when people see that most of the limited development effort for Classic is aimed at SoD and now fresh. People go where Blizzard currently pays attention to, and progression Classic is simply on the backburner.

I’m having plenty of fun in Cata. I’ll have fun with it regardless of how much guild or server consolidation takes place. It’s just unfortunate that it seems, at least from an untrained observer’s perspective, that it’s almost as if they’re content for Cata to wither away.

I don’t think it has anything to do with the merits of the expansion either. It’s just plain and simple, bugs (which there are plenty of) take weeks if not months to fix. It released in a pretty dreadful state and has been brought up to serviceable level, but the lack of attention compared to Wrath is evident.

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Mind you, I can see why that is. Vanilla is something they’ve had the opportunity to fiddle with ever since Era originally launched. It has a die-hard community of fans that evidently want it again and again, and it must be easier to work with something they’ve been running servers of for years than try to make a genuinely enhanced version of Wrath, Cata, or MoP when they’re gone in a year and a half anyway.

It’s just a shame because there is evidently a lot of potential to make these expansions vastly more fun than they used to be. Every announcement hints at that, but I can see why all the planned features get axed; it just isn’t economical.

Hm, my server is quite active. And I see a lot of RDF activity too.

Hold it right there, you fresh beliver! We’ve been in fresh Vanilla like Classic way too many times, recently launched is technically 5th as in 5 years since 2019. On the other hand MoP Classic is half a year away and my take is if not TBC promise that we didn’t saw relaunched since mid 2021, the new anniversary would get a half of attention it is getting now.

When we would get first Onyxia and MC kills the numbers would be great I suppose, since these are the easiest raids out there, but real stats would show up on 4th weekly reset. Most players who wanted only TBCCC would wait for late 2025.

Cata is dying because of GDKP.

Cata isn’t really dying. There’s 2 things going on, the first is very much a current moment thing.

1- PoE2 released, which a ton of wow players are now playing.
2- Firelands is really quite short which very much makes it a ‘‘quick raidlog’’ type of raid. Virtually every firelands run just wraps up in 2 hours, which means you never see continuations/progression groups like you might’ve in ICC.

It sucks because firelands is actually a nice raid that’s quite enjoyable (except there’s a bit too many cheesefights if you enjoy parsing). It’s just short. But man it really hit’s that balance of easy-medium-hard bosses and progression to perfection.

Cataclysm Classic has the lowest number of raiders among all Classic reiterations.

The two raid tiers have had the biggest decline (60%) between them compared to any other first two raid tiers in all of Classic so far. Logged raiders are 130k only because guilds are running two or three groups for fast legendary staves. Once the dps get their staves, it will collapse.

Cataclysm sees very little support by the devs who are doing the absolutely minimum.

So yes, Cata is dying.

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For me it´s dying because the elemental protocol is literally just boredom increased by 100%. Cant be arsed to do the cap or anything.

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I was playing every single raid almost every week for wotlk, sad what they did to classic with cata

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I get the feeling there’s a good bit of classic being used to get properly shaped/set releasable content for various future re-hashes (having each major tier release properly set up for re-use as a fork of the main wow client).
It IS all rather quiet currently though, plenty are on with raid logging and there’s not a mass of other stuff to do (maybe pvp). It’ll LIKELY improve next tier. While I detest LFR, if anyone doesn’t expect it to drop exactly as it did the first time around… eh, there’s a lack of attention being paid.

I only wait for MoP and Legion. Going to take a break in WoD. No hopes associated with DS or new elemental protocol heroic+ dungeons if the keep slapping HP and damage on it. I really think they shouldn’t made Cata last till summer.

I think Cata could have lasted until summer without issues if Blizzard decided to do a modern take on all the scrapped endgame content in OG Cata. I always thought it was a shame that everything surrounding Vashj’ir was just scrapped, for example. Highly underrated zone. The Abyssal Maw raid would have been cool to have alongside Firelands, for example.

But it’s very obvious to me that the devs have no intention of doing anything than the bare minimum to balance Cata somewhere around life support. Which, as a Cata enjoyer, is a shame since my guess is that we’re not gonna see an official Cata classic release again. Ever. Earlier classic expansions will not run into the same problem since they’re more popular amongst the community. Which we’re already seeing with the fresh classic servers, that are going to continue into TBC (and Wrath?), if I’m informed correctly.

Very much true, as with AnnKhaet raid cancelled in Wrath (instead we got Argent tournament) and Battle for Shatrath City missing in WoD along many other features. But as we had seen Blizzard didn’t invested time and effort into releasing Cata bug free for weeks after launch, so there is no hope they would spend even a dime to release cancelled content.