Like I am not the best BM in the world, but I have 2k rating and I am normally the highest DPS in the grp. Though I can’t get a 16 Algeth’ar on this bursting grievous week lol.
Don’t think BM is the issue. just way to many hunters around right now.
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It’s just a much harder season than S3 or S4 SL. People are even more picky than usual ime.
It’s mainly due to how m+ rewards scale now, in SL you had no reason to do anything higher than a 15 to get the best gear, now you have to go all the way up to +20 for the best gear. My 2,7k hunter have a very hard time getting into 20s, that’s is not only due to that it’s a hunter but more due to that there are a ton of 3k players applying to those keys to fill the vault for the week. The new m+ reward system is amazing if you have nothing else going on in your life other than playing WoW, for everyone else not so much.
16s are what people farm for the upgrade mats and valor. Try 17 instead should be easier. Same for when you get to 20s people farm that for weekly, much easier for me to get in a 21 over a 20.
Yeah I need the upgrade mats, though also the puzzle box. Still has not dropped for me.
No problems getting into 18/19. Tried to sneak into a 20 SBG. No chance. Gave up after more than an hour 
I think its just risky to bring a hunter. Keys were never be harder than now probably and even a decent hunter can be a problem…because of his defensives. Hunter just die. Its way easier to heal a warlock or tbh any other class.
if every class has the same dmg (+/-), why on earth you take a hunter ^^ ? No usefull unique utility, one of the worst defensives.
Hunter needs help.
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Bl, misdirection, tranquillising shot for rage weeks/nokhund dispel second boss. Nice boss damage from bm.
To get into 20 you need to have some 20 completed in rio…so just try to boost your own key.
BM hunters most of the time doesnt skill MD. Nothing what you mentioned is unique and come on “Nice boss dmg” isnt a reason to pick a class, only if its like crazy more than other specs.
Bs bm defensives isnt a real problem immo the problem is this, if you as hunter can use a spirit beast your defensives arent a real problem, the problem is if you need to use a bl pet you have 1 defensive less then its a problem. But people forget that bm has the best sustained dps and can avoid all dmg except unavoidable dmg ofc.
Hunters can do decent damage but it’s like your say. Other classes bring what hunters can but with more survivability, better DPS, healthier talent trees and so on. I also think they will be to op in pvp if you just buff survivability. Possibly they need a PVE only buff to self-healing or maybe buff the turtle pet ability with 15% damage reduction to the hunter as passive in pve content only. Blizzard needs to think of something though. Having your class be picked in the MDI as a meme choice. When the team is like. We’re going to lose anyway, is really disheartening.
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I mean i cant explain it more or better. If you srsly believe hunter defensive and utility is fine…idk what to say.
And when a spec is picked only becauss of tuning it has a problem or will have problems.
If they Buff Hunter defensives then they need to nerf ouer dmg for sure, as bm i am talking, we have a big advantages then other classes we can keep jumping around like a rabbit and do ouer Full Rotation of dps i mean you dont have to know rocket science, if they buff ouer defensives we will be Overpowered, problem is the average brain of a hunter player is braindead and they stand in every frontal of every ground effect.
No one in standing in frontals. Unless I explained it very poorly. We are talking about unavoidable damage. If you think that the survivability is fine. Thats cool, but most hunters simply don’t agree. Most players don’t agree.
The commentators don’t agree with you in the MDI, as one teams took a BM hunter as a meme pick. Basically, for a bit of fun as they thought they were going to lose, and they talked about the survivability issue on stream. The team with the BM hunter actually won that instance but only because the other team made a huge mistake in court of stars if memory serves.
You could still be right and everyone else is wrong, but you have to at the very least accept these facts. That a huge portion of the player base, not just BM hunters does not agree with you.
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hell no dude hunter defensives are trash we are literally worst of the pack the problem with are defensives is the cd’s are far to long compare hunter to rogue it’s not even close and spirit beast is uselesss since they nerfed spirit mend in SL it heals for total of about 4-5 % for you total life over 8 secs garbage and hunter biggest bane i unavoidable aoe damage and this season has a ton of it so stop saying hunter are fine like it’ facts cuz your talking out your behind. A lot of mecanics on mythic+ are a near death sentence on over 20 keys unless turtle is off cd
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He will know if he ever starts doing 20s
When listing my key I don’t even look at spec of hunter, but the sheer number of green names that sign up like holyyy. It’s not you personally, its just that there’s a lot of you, can only take so many lol
one reason there is a lots, is that many hunters, are trying to que get declined que again, so you end up with a mega stream of hunters trying to get in to a group, where other classes has it easier, what meens hunters are the left overs.
but yes there is a lot of hunters, but when you combine it whit hunters having a hard time getting in to groups, you end up whit 1 mage and 10 hunters quing for your groups.
An unholy DK of roughly the same ilvl had 60k more health. Never mind defensives or self-healing. We don’t have an aoe stun, we have an interrupt that feels terrible, tar trap does not work on the mobs you want it to work on (jade temple) and binding shot (the one reason to bring a hunter got nerfed).
These would matter less if M+ was not the only other way to get gear outside of raids. Cause we are okay in raids. Not taking into account the issues surrounding HP, but we are okay. We don’t have to have a really low cd interrupt or aoe stun to be useful. We do decent single target damage. Around mid of the pack for DPS. We can cheese certain mechanics with shell.
You can run 1 or 2 hunters in raid. You simple can’t say the same for M+.