Dragons used to be big and scary, cruel monsters, I always disliked how Dragons could change into a humanoid form. I was under the impression at that time that it was only possible by really powerful, intelligent dragons, as rare as they may be and required a ton of arcane knowledge to be able to do so. This would be used to meddle in mortal affairs (onyxia).
But now Danuser made it so Dragons chose a humanoid form as a way to express themselves through identity issues? Dragons have identity issues? They love interacting with mortals? The dragons in my mount tab arenât just beasts I tamed? Theyâre basically just wholesome misunderstood human creatures that just love to give me a piggy back ride?
You know, this is why a lot of people think Dragonflight is a joke and marketed to toddlers. When you start thinking about it, it becomes weird.
Danuser keeps ruining the image of Warcraft. It takes skill to take something so cool as dragons and completely neuter them to the point theyâre as aggressive as something out of my little pony.
And it really put such an uncomfortable spin on what the orcs did to Alexstrasza in the second war that Blizzard couldnât include it. (Mild way to put it is they forced her to lay eggs to fuel their war machine. You know how)
Youâre right OP. It feels very wrong, all of it. The story of DF is really bad.
I think itâs fine for them to be humanoid a lot of the time but I do think that they should also become proper Dragons more often and do some impressive stuff in that form.
In fact they should really do some impressive stuff in any form, What have they done apart from stand around, argue about who should be the next aspect and turn up in a naff cinematic spouting platitudes and trite waffle.
Dragons should be some of the most impressive beings on Azeroth but they simply arenât.
I too believe that it was inspired (copied) from D&D. Dragons having humanoid forms doesnât really bother me. What bothers me is the fact that Blizzard once again shows that it is incapable of coherent and logical representation of beings that have lived for thousands of years. The behavior of dragons is no different from that of humans, even though logic would suggest that someone whose psyche has been shaped over thousands of years, who has thousands of years of experience, should behave somewhat differently than a thirty-year-old human.
While reading I have picked up my draconomicon from 3.5.
On the section with premade dragons template, there is a perfect one to use ad ispiration.
âA gold dragon whelp that is being raised in a good king castle. She always keep the form of a 7 year old girl to the surprise of the visitors when they have to deal with the brilliance of mind of a gold dragonâ
To cut short, even when are whelps, dragons are already extremely intelligent (a whelp in 3.5 is a dragon from 0 to 5 years old), depending on the dragon spiece (withe dragon are almost feral instead gold, silver and red are the smartest ones).
Iâd prefer if they kept dragons as mystical, giant beasts from Tolkien to be honest.
This is what not only bothers me with Dragons, but with Night Elves and Blood Elves aswell these days. You described the vibe whatâs wrong with their behavior completely.
I love how people use this as an example how sexist Blizzard used to be in the days of old, bringing up their frat boy culture, but Dragons at that time were just Dragons, beasts. They did not had a humanoid form at that time.
And yet theyâve been doing that exact thing since the start of vanilla.
Youâre throwing a whole lot of very different issues onto one big pile here.
Thereâs no âone answerâ to any of that. They all have different reasons.
Yeah, I mean it takes the theme from forced breeding, which is very evil and dark but not to the point of outright human trauma, and changes it into exactly that. Canât even write the word that the theme suddenly is on the forums⌠itâs banned.
You are right, but I never said they should have written them âcorrectlyâ. I believe they should have been written âdifferentlyâ (than for example humans), because:
Currently their age has no meaning at all when it comes to their actions, decisions or personality.
no, thousand years old creatures will be something akin to lovecraft entities or classic vampires.
Emotion numbness, lack of empathy, some hobby (might as well be something depraved or impossibly complex) that keeps you sane, and incomperhensible mind.
Tolkien characters are pretty normal
gandalf is 55 000 years old, and while he shows age old wisdom, ingenuity and better awareness of the world than other members of fellowship - you donât need to live 55 000 years to achieve this kind of clarity.
Donât remember any other character showing something like this, sauron despite being older than even gandalf acts like plot device and elves donât show much at all
Itâs observation brought from various media that shows how more likely immortal creatures will behave, imagine what is it like to live so much, over time you will stop notice those who live much much much less amount of time than you.
But itâs only an observation
