Anything about boosters?

[Deepdamp-blackrock]

If you believe the bans on lfg are not automated first and manually reviewed afterwards, but rather manually reviewed first, then I don’t know how to help you… But of course, the company that can only hire 2 PvP Devs and does not manage to ban the thousands of obvious bots would never ever be using automod for the lfg tool and rather review the reports manually at first.

That’s what I get for arguing with the guy who thinks S2 glad is as hard to achieve as S3 glad because he feels like it, while ignoring all the raw data.

[Aryash-silvermoon]

Clapped all of them boosters from start of this season till the end.
Boosters are by far the easiest games for you to win.

[Topperharley-shattered-hand]

There are few things that ruining pvp right now:
-boosting
-stupid pve set bonuses
-gear difference between tiers is too huge. If we add boosting to that it takes all joy from playing pvp
-something is wrong with mathchmaking, on 2kCR we are facing only guys with 2400+exp

After next expansion balance in pvp will be completly lost with new talent trees.
It leads wow to dead end.

[Brodanyo-burning-legion (Brodanyo)]

2 days ago I queued few games and I met Panzerhenk boosting Outlaw Rogue that was 1600 at best. My friends also met them. Guy dr’ed every Kidney against my friends and against me when Panzer got clonned he pressed Evasion against Ele while being 50% HP and when he had Vanish available.

I understand helping someone to get 100 cr or 200 but this is boosting someone for 5 brackets.

This is mental.

[Wotlkwhen-kazzak]

bold of you to assume that blizzard care about boosting or pvp at all

[Ðraegor-the-maelstrom]

@Bewarê-frostmane

You can still check their armory pages by manually searching for their characters on the armory part of the website.

And what are you supposed to find there what you can’t see on pvp check?

[Ðraegor-the-maelstrom]

@Lockfromwish-ravencrest

WTS ARENA RATING

@Lockfromwish-ravencrest

their advertisements aren’t violating ToS

@Lockfromwish-ravencrest

Because they aren’t explicitly saying SELLING, they aren’t saying FOR GOLD or other currency.

So “WTS” has nothing to do with selling anymore? I mean they even leave their website there, where everything is obviously clear, or not? (incease someone doesn’t know the meaning of wts)
Also, what could the currency be if not rl money or gold? Hugs? Love? Nudes?

@Lockfromwish-ravencrest

Didn’t Asmongold test that in WoD or Legion or something by messaging in /s? If you’re talking about him doing it through an LFG listing with the new user agreement, I would love to see a video?

There are several vids when he got silenced for a week or something? By LFG people spamming reports on his group. There is even one from BFA still.

[Bewarê-frostmane]

@Ðraegor-the-maelstrom

And what are you supposed to find there what you can’t see on pvp check?

I’m just pointing out that hiding the profile is irrelevant. Because a lot of people actually do believe that the only way to get to a character’s armory page, is via the forum profile. And then there are cases like this:

@Noxy-hydraxian-waterlords

hid his acc on pvp)

which people can also do.

[Ðraegor-the-maelstrom]

@Bewarê-frostmane

I’m just pointing out that hiding the profile is irrelevant. Because a lot of people actually do believe that the only way to get to a character’s armory page, is via the forum profile. And then there are cases like this:

I am not sure what you mean.
Hidden profile means that you can’t see his alts or main in this case (I guess?).
Isn’t PvP Check showing pretty much the same relevant information armory does or what am I missing?

[Moistblink-frostmane]

He does A LOT of boosting queued into him at 2kish when I was getting duelist for my lock boosting a demo lock.

[Brodanyo-burning-legion (Brodanyo)]

Well I guess why he boosts/coach as it’s good source of gold and it might be fun. He is the best MW EU/potentially world but boosting such potato to this rating is just stupid.

[Moistblink-frostmane]

Funny thing is that the big stream boosters are kinda cheap only asking for 200k in most cases.

The people who for example use nova for rating pay 900k gold for just 0-1500 cr.

[Archimitros-blackmoore (Archimitros)]

@Lockfromwish-ravencrest

Perma bans in WoW achieves next to nothing. All these guys have to do is add another WoW to their battle.net and they keep everything achievements and mount etc wise. Only thing they have to do is start from 60 all over again.

Well if punishment A doesn’t work, use B.

B being to just remove their entire Bnet account from existance.

[Lockfromwish-ravencrest]

@Ðraegor-the-maelstrom

So “WTS” has nothing to do with selling anymore?

As we have already said, these people list their groups with careful wording to avoid the ban hammer. They aren’t explicitly saying SELL.

@Ðraegor-the-maelstrom

There are several vids when he got silenced for a week or something? By LFG people spamming reports on his group. There is even one from BFA still.

BFA isn’t from the implementation of the new advertising in LFG policy that begun on 2nd July 2022, is it?

Also the ones I’ve seen are where he gets silenced for ‘abusive chat’.

But if you have a video of him getting banned for advertisement after listing an LFG group beginning on or after 2nd July 2022, I’d love to see it!

@Archimitros-blackmoore

B being to just remove their entire Bnet account from existance.

Quite literally not an option.

[Ðraegor-the-maelstrom]

@Lockfromwish-ravencrest

As we have already said, these people list their groups with careful wording to avoid the ban hammer. They aren’t explicitly saying SELL.

Well if “wts” is not explicitly enough for sell then idk

@Lockfromwish-ravencrest

BFA isn’t from the implementation of the new advertising in LFG policy that begun on 2nd July 2022, is it?

Idk, probably not? But the point was that spamming report leads to (at least) communication ban. Idk what it’s doing now.

@Lockfromwish-ravencrest

Also the ones I’ve seen are where he gets silenced for ‘abusive chat’.

Ye that’s just the standard “explanation” tho. In reality it’s just spamming reports, he showed that in some of his videos when he was talking to a GM.

@Lockfromwish-ravencrest

But if you have a video of him getting banned for advertisement after listing an LFG group beginning on or after 2nd July 2022, I’d love to see it!

Idk if there something like that, I was more referring to this:

@Lockfromwish-ravencrest

Are you really telling me that you genuinely believe that 4 different groups that are up 24/7 have not been reported enough for advertisement in the entire season that they’ve been up?

If you get spam reported enough, you just get silenced for a week, the reason of the report doesn’t matter. If you are silenced, you can’t use the chat nor list a group in LFG.

[Lockfromwish-ravencrest]

@Ðraegor-the-maelstrom

But the point was that spamming report leads to (at least) communication ban

Well done, you repeated a point I’ve already admitted. We’re not talking about spam reports for communication bans, we’re talking about spam reports for advertisement bans.

@Ðraegor-the-maelstrom

Idk what it’s doing now.

So don’t involve yourself if you don’t know?

@Ðraegor-the-maelstrom

Ye that’s just the standard “explanation” tho.

Not really. You get given bans for a variety of things, if you get reported socially, it’s going to be for abusive chat almost always. If you get banned for an LFG listing, it gets classified as ‘disruptive gameplay’. You do not get silenced, you get banned. I.e., you can not log on.

@Ðraegor-the-maelstrom

If you get spam reported enough, you just get silenced for a week, the reason of the report doesn’t matter. If you are silenced, you can’t use the chat nor list a group in LFG.

Again, for things you have SAID which I have already pointed out. We are talking about bans for advertisement from 2nd July 2022 - now. Truth is, you don’t have a clue if the automated ban system applies to reporting LFG advertisements and your Asmongold example is to do with something completely different.

[Gunbal-kazzak]

@Karanze-ravencrest

This man’s a legend though

Godofwar Chad booster multi glad with full t3 and arcanite ripper vs OP classic virgin level 18 warrior complainer.
Who would win whatsoever I wonder.

[Ðraegor-the-maelstrom]

@Lockfromwish-ravencrest

Again, for things you have SAID which I have already pointed out.

As I said: NO
You get spam reported and you are silenced. You don’t need to say anything. That’s why he also got “unsilenced” by the GM, because there was nothing.

@Lockfromwish-ravencrest

Truth is, you don’t have a clue if the automated ban system applies to reporting LFG advertisements and your Asmongold example is to do with something completely different.

I am saying that you can spam report the ad-groups and those get silenced, which means they can’t start a group again for at least one week.

[Lockfromwish-ravencrest]

@Ðraegor-the-maelstrom

You get spam reported and you are silenced. You don’t need to say anything. That’s why he also got “unsilenced” by the GM, because there was nothing.

First YouTube video: ‘I got silenced for saying I love WoW’ (6 years ago)

Second YouTube video: ‘Blizzard SILENCED Asmongold’s WoW account’ (2 years ago) - this was due to the whole drama of telling everyone to /spit on people with store mounts.

Third YouTube video: ’ Asmongold Gets Soft-BANNED From WoW & Can’t Form Groups Anymore’ (2 years ago) - mass reported for chatting in game (which I have said AGAIN is a reality).

@Ðraegor-the-maelstrom

You don’t need to say anything.

Nonsense. You can’t report somebody for abusive chat if they haven’t said anything, you can only open tickets and claim you’re being harassed to which it then takes up to 3 days for Blizzard to respond and they then ask for photographic proof.

@Ðraegor-the-maelstrom

That’s why he also got “unsilenced” by the GM, because there was nothing.

He was unsilenced because the things he was reported for did not violate ToS.

@Ðraegor-the-maelstrom

I am saying that you can spam report the ad-groups and those get silenced, which means they can’t start a group again for at least one week.

Okay, and I am saying show me your proof of this beginning on or after the 2nd July 2022 following the implementation of the new policy.

If you want to say that you get banned/silenced for mass reported advertisement complaints of LFG listings, the onus is on you to prove it.

[Archimitros-blackmoore (Archimitros)]

@Lockfromwish-ravencrest

Quite literally not an option.

Lol then MAKE it one.

You laid the problem out, I laid out the solution. Sometimes we need to go to extremes to achieve our goals, as sad as it is.

If permabans don’t work, find a way to do something that works and truly hurts. Screw people that bend the rules the entire time.