Can we do something about massive boosting in 3v3?
Here are some insane boosters who are gate keeping 2k-2.5k mmr with over 10,000 played games
Mýzrìk-Kazzak (hidden profile)
Gódófwàr-Kazzak (hidden profile)
This guys also
Wintradex-Stormscale
Hybridminds-Draenor (unbanned has alt account)
Unclemalko-Kazzak (boosting with his friend hid his acc on pvp)
Leolulu-Lightning’sBlade (banned has alt account)
Can’t think of anyone else atm. when I see i will edit or add on next post but I’m really sick and tired seeing these boosters and sheep people who actually buy this? You know you did not get that rating, there is no prestige in it, nothing. So when I see these people and I know they are boosting, i just instantly report them and I will continue to do so.
This really has to stop. (Perma ID ban them out of this game not a 6 month ban)
Boosting for gold is a legitimate action according to TOS, which has always been questionable in my mind because you get banned for ‘advertising for gold’ in LFG but you can still do the action of boosting, always found it weird.
Some of those guys you mentioned only get banned/dq’d for wintrading and RMT’ing at the top top end.
Perma bans in WoW achieves next to nothing. All these guys have to do is add another WoW to their battle.net and they keep everything achievements and mount etc wise. Only thing they have to do is start from 60 all over again.
Well you don’t get banned for ‘advertising for gold’, you get banned for ‘advertising anything at all’ in LFG, has nothing to do with gold boosting itself, so dunno why it would be weird to you.
I kinda like the idea of these people existing, who just sit around the AH all day every day, playing the economy, stacking tons of gold and buying some phat achievements for themselves. Imo that’s a fundamental part of any MMORPG, it’s just the WoW token completely ruins this…
You can still check their armory pages by manually searching for their characters on the armory part of the website.
Search for their characters in the Search box and you’ll find them.
It’s not possible to hide your character on the armory page. You can only turn off the shortcut to it from the forum profile.
However, armory tends to bug out sometimes, and turn a character’s armory page into a 404-error. But that isn’t something people can turn on at will, it’s a problem with the servers.
Incorrect. I got banned for a week for saying ‘Helping in 2s for gold’. As soon as I turn that into ‘Helping in 2s, /w me for info’, it’s now legit and I can’t be banned.
Cool, so why aren’t these 24/7 advertisers banned?
They’re not banned for advertising ‘anything at all’, but when I specified in my listing it was ‘for gold’, I was kicked out of the game and suspended for a week for advertising within an hour.
^ That is as much against ToS as ‘Helping in 2s for gold’, but you probably are gonna get reported more for putting the currency in, since most people won’t bother with the “/w me for more info” stuff because nothing changes anyway. They get banned, then they make new acc and do it all over again.
Bans only happen if X amount of reports come in. You can advertise all day as much as you want, anything you want to in lfg and as long as not enough people report it, the automated system won’t do anything about it.
[In-Game Advertising - Blizzard Support (battle.net)](https ://us.battle.net/support/en/article/187406)
[In-Game Advertising Policy Changes for Group Finder - Wowhead News](https ://www.wowhead.com/news/in-game-advertising-policy-changes-for-group-finder-285321)
‘Beginning Monday, July 2nd, we will no longer allow any advertisements in the Group Finder for in-game services such as carries or boosts, including those being offered in exchange for in-game gold’.
‘Helping in 2s, /w me for info’ can ultimately be me offering to help you and asking if you wanna go on discord. ‘Helping FOR GOLD’ is a violation and gets you banned. I literally got banned for it!
I report those groups in those imgurs every single time I see them, they’re the SAME characters. They are up 24/7. So tell me, why aren’t they banned? You are ever so close.
Are you really telling me that you genuinely believe that 4 different groups that are up 24/7 have not been reported enough for advertisement in the entire season that they’ve been up?
It’s okay to be wrong, buddy. After all, you thought ‘helping in 2s /w me for info’ is just as against ToS as ‘helping in 2s for gold’, lol.
So you can’t explain how it works… If this bothers you that much, then I’d advise you to educate yourself on it, then you will find the explanation for all of this and if not then don’t, idc either way.
You can get ANYONE banned, if you have X people report them, doesn’t matter what for. I could literally make a group rn in lfg 2v2 bracket, call it “lf rdruid for quick 2100 push”, which is completely fine with ToS and get false flagged+banned for it, if a bunch of people were to report me. Then I could appeal it and after 1-3 days I’d get unbanned for false flagging.
These boosters are wording their stuff very carefully and managing to not piss enough people off, in order to avoid the banhammer because they don’t get enough reports in per advertisement. If they got banned for it, they would probably not be able to convince the GM, that the ban was not justified, unless they are lucky and they get a 3Head guy on his first day on the job. It doesn’t matter whether you report them throughout the entire season, they need to get enough reports in within a certain timestamp and appaerently it’s not happening, otherwise they would get banned, even if they were acting within ToS. It’s probably due to people giving up and not bothering at this point, since it’s too much work and leads to nothing most of the times, but you on the other hand where going full confrontational by making a group called “boosting for gold” and people hate that stuff… I’m honestly surprised you lasted an hour. I’d assume something like that would get flagged within 10 minutes.
But the reason you see these guys still is because they simply don’t get reported enough to get banned. Maybe you are right and they always get unbanned by GMs after being reported enough, maybe they just make new account and advertise again, we won’t find out unless one of them would chime in and confirm it. But what is 100% facts is that if you check lfg rn and you report the guy, and then you check lfg again 12h later and you still see the same guy in there, he did not get reported enough to warrant a ban because anyone who gets reported enough will get banned, no matter whether they are acting within ToS or not because this process is automated and if he was banned and then unbanned again, he would at least be gone for a day or two because that’s how long it usually takes for a GM to reply to these issues.
Again, you genuinely think that not enough people are seeing 4 big WTS ARENA RATING groups every single day for an entire season and aren’t reporting them? The reality is: their advertisements aren’t violating ToS. Why? Because they aren’t explicitly saying SELLING, they aren’t saying FOR GOLD or other currency.
But when I do ‘helping in 2s /w me for info’ that’s fine? As you said:
And you think people don’t hate seeing 4 lots of WTS ARENA RATING 24/7?
As you even suggested yourself, their wording is not a violation of ToS. So even if they do get banned, they just get unbanned again.
You’re coming across as very confrontational and argumentative when whether you realise it or not are simply confirming my points lol.
Your reply is ditching the last paragraph of my previous post, which is the most important one.
I can guarantee you, that you if you were to make a lfg post with “I’ll help you, /w me for more info” and another one called “I’ll boost you for gold”, the 2. one is gonna get reported a minimum of 10x as much.
But to answer your question: Yes, I do genuinely believe, that most of them don’t get reported enough and therefore they don’t get banned.
Most people have seen them, reported them, some of them will probably have gotten banned, immediately created new accounts and re-appeared. At some point, it feels like you are running against a wall and people generally don’t like wasting time on stuff they can’t influence anyway, so they just stopped reporting them. But when they see someone like you writing “boosting for gold”, let me tell you, it re-ignites the fire. Hell, I don’t bother reporting those “/w me for more info” guys anymore, it’s a waste of time, but if I saw you in lfg with the “boosting for gold”, I wouldn’t even hesitate and fulfill my duty as a good citizen.
And what’s the difference? One is a violation of ToS, the other is not. So let’s say these WTS Rating groups are getting banned and unbanned, their wording is simply not a violation of ToS. Therefore:
Is COMPLETELY wrong.
I put ‘helping for gold’ btw. You’re not realising it’s the 'for x y z ’ that’s the violation. I will send the blue post to you one more time just so you can grasp it:
'We will no longer allow any advertisements in the Group Finder for in-game services such as carries or boosts, including those being offered in exchange for in-game gold.
Bruv, it doesn’t matter what you get reported for, if I get 200 people to report you for making a post in lfg called “Hi”, you gonna get banned, no matter what, so if you see the same guy still advertising a few hours later, the same day you reported him, it means he did not get reported enough and therefore did not get banned. It’s an automated system, it does not give a damn about whether you feel someone deserves a ban or not, it’s simple maths: If X amount of people report you in Y time, you get banned (until you get unbanned - or not).
If you made a post called “Me help for gold” and X amount of people reported you, you got banned for being reported X amount of times in Y time. Then you can file an appeal and it comes down to the GM to decide, whether it’s justified or not. You can’t advertise anything in lfg, it’s against the rules. A friend of mine got banned 2 days ago cause he put his name in lfg and added “ttv”, without posting the direct link and that was already counted as an advert. He got a 10 day ban and he already tried to appeal it twice, but the GMs said it’s justified and he never wanted gold or anything, literally just said his name+ttv without a link in the description of lfg and called it “(His Name) helping” in the title.
Except that I’d get the ban reversed. If I get banned for advertising for Gold, my ban is justified and would be upheld. Also, you’re just assuming that LFG bans are automated. Social ones 10000% are, the onus is on you at this point to show that LFG groups receive automated bans.
Guesswork. Make a group called ‘hi’ and get your 200 people to report it, let’s see if you get banned?
Because that is literally in the EULA that you are not allowed to that. I suggest you guys actually read the agreements that you’re bound by before you make out that you’re victims.
‘Helping in 2s’ is advertisement. ‘Helping in 2s’ is not a violation. 'Helping in 2s for X Y Z ’ IS a violation and bannable. Third time is the charm? 'We will no longer allow any advertisements in the Group Finder for in-game services such as carries or boosts,including those being offered in exchange for in-game gold. You’re repeatedly shifting the goalposts, is it ‘you can’t advertise in LFG’ or ‘the ban system is automated so it doesn’t matter what you’re listed as because all you need is enough people to report you’? Make your mind up.
Good Lord, I’m getting dizzy from running around in circles.
Asmongold already tested that and it works, he had his viewers spam report him. Also there is a big MDI M+ streamer, who got 3x false flagged for that stuff cause malicious people would spam report him. It got overruled every single time, but he always had to wait for a GM to reply, which would take days and he was basically not able to play the game for an entire week because of that. It was some spicy WoW drama on Twitter. People also abused the automated system in classic to stop people from completing Scarab Lord before them, having their entire guild false flag certain players.
The conclusion is both. You can get anyone banned, false flag or not, you just need enough reports and also any form of advertising in lfg is against the rules. The question is whether it’s advertising to say “helping, dm on discord”. I’d say it is, since it’s clear to even the most dense people, what these guys are doing and that they are trying discuss payment, which would be against ToS. If you have hundreds of people reporting them and in the reasoning they were to specify, that they reported them for “selling boosts”, I’m confident that 95% of GMs would agree and therefore say, that the reports were justified and not overturn the bans.
I believe that most of the times these people simply do not get reported enough anymore in order to be banned by the automated system and then forced to be manually reviewed by an actual GM, which is prolly the result of these people just creating infinite amounts of accounts as soon as they get banned and people just giving up on reporting them, since it’s a waste of time. And if they get banned, you wouldn’t notice anyway, since they will be back 10mins later with a new acc.
After all this entire discussion is pointless…
If it’s against ToS and they get banned, they make new acc and nothing changes. And if it’s not against ToS, they either get “false flagged” and get banned for a few days, which also results in them just making new accounts, or they don’t get reported enough, so they never disappear. At the end of the day, they will always be there and if they get taken down, they will almost immediately re-appear, until the day they manually stop advertising themselves because it stops being lucrative.
Either way, gold boosts are not against ToS, but advertising any form of boosting in lfg is. That does not mean, that you will be automatically banned for doing so though, since it takes a certain amount of manual action from players and these advertisers are trying to keep as low of a profile in lfg as possible, while still being efficient at what they want to achieve, in order to not having to create a new account every hour. You just went full pepega with your lfg gold add, therefore got the boot pretty quickly and now believe that what these guys are doing is not against ToS because no matter what, they are always there.
Didn’t Asmongold test that in WoD or Legion or something by messaging in /s? If you’re talking about him doing it through an LFG listing with the new user agreement, I would love to see a video?
Again, in /s or in LFG? I’ve already said that automated bans exist for things you say in game.
Literally every single group in LFG can be classified as an advertisement. You’re advertising yourself to other people for them to join your group. Advertising a service is a completely different thing which is addressed in the ToS that I have now repeated to you at least 3 times and linked you 2 articles to.
Yes it is clear to a reasonable person, however as it is not explicitly stated in their listing, they can not justly get banned for it.
Again, more guesswork.
They. Are. The. Same. Names and they can literally last 7 days without delisting a single time. Come back here in 3 days and you’ll probably see the same names in the imgurs still being listed in lfg.
I would also even argue that there is a higher threshold required for reporting LFG advertisements before it’s even drawn to Blizzard’s attention because of the possibility of accidental reporting. You don’t have to confirm your report, you click once and it’s done.
It became pointless the second you typed ‘helping in 2s /w me for info’ is just as much against ToS as ‘helping for gold’.
For the EXCHANGE of something in return. ‘Organizations who offer boosting, matchmaking, escrow, or other non-traditional services, including those offered for gold are prohibited’.
Yes, I broke ToS a few months ago and got banned for it. Deservedly. These guys clearly are not breaking the ToS when their advertisements are ever present. Still waiting for you to show me that LFG ads are subject to automated bans instead of guessing!
It’s not against ToS because they’re not explicitly saying that you’re playing with r1’s or getting x y z rating in exchange for gold or anything else! Which you even admitted yourself they achieve through careful wording!
