How does it make it less valuable. If you achieved something and feel that it was a great achievement, a testament of your skill, then it really doesn’t matter if someone else didn’t. It does not affect what you did or received.
It will not be less valuable to you.
On the other hand, yes for the one who was boosted.
I don’t think the person who was boosted sees it that way. They see it as gold well spent. They have the mount.
I personally don’t care how someone obtains a raid mount. I envy those that have the gold to buy Mythic last boss kills and 9 times out of 10 I’ll be farming that on a low drop chance when it becomes old content.
I don’t raid, so the only option for me is later farming. I don’t have enough gold to buy a boost, but I can honestly say that if I had it, I wouldn’t buy it for several million.
At least it stays as obtainable.
Jesse, what are you talking about?
WoW was considered the most casual MMORPG in its heyday and was frequently made fun of by players of EverQuest, Ultima Online, Neverwinter Nights, and similar titles. Truly challenging content wasn’t implemented until Pandaria and the difficulty that came from needing to play long hours was nerfed with each expansion even though the game was already considered to be too generous with rewards compared to its competitors.
Don’t get me wrong, raids like Naxxramas, Black Temple, or Ulduar were fantastic as far as lore and visuals go but the mechanics weren’t anything ground breaking. Pandaria brought us the precursor to Mythic+ and Legion had the mage tower.
The number of mechanics and the skill needed to execute them successfully have been steadily increasing so I wouldn’t dismiss “Panda babies” or “Legion babies” or even “BFA babies” because they have had to play at a higher skill level from the beginning than those who started in the olden days where you could bind your full rotation to your mouse wheel.
Also, AOTC mounts aren’t proof of skill or dedication. You have always been able to just buy a boost for them or even get them for free through community initiatives that organized such runs for people of low skill or gear level.
Me in the new age, doing the exact same thing
Yeah, skill required nowdays to do your roation, for real for real
heh
I am a skilled new age player!
Just put a ‘TP’ sticker/label on all items puchased from the Trading Post. If not on the item itself then on the description for the item. That way others can see if you actually were awarded the item for undertaking challenges in the game, Just buying rewards is pretty lame in truth and so the OP has a valid point.
Unless you disagree with your (and the OP’s) statement, in which case his point is null and void.
The makers of this game only sell time as a general measure of what we do. All of us expend that time, which we pay for, in various ways to attain certain things. Some of our achievements and rewards take more time than others, but that time is valuable and we pay for every minute we are in game.
So no matter how small the achievement it has already cost in time and money. Therefore simply circumventing the time given by others in return for simple payment is lame.
If the game creators truly want to provide items for payment then let them expend their time in creating unique and purpose designed items for that purpose. In robbing a player of his/her time in attaining an achieved item they should be rewarded with something else as unique and special, cus by sticking the thing in a shop for purchase degrades the purpose we all play this game.
And just cus someone doesn’t agree with you doesn’t make a point void. We all have a voice and we can share this on a public forum.
I’m curious what class and specialization you can do this on currently? Not asking this to get one over you. Since I’ve become disabled I had to retire from raiding and haven’t had much luck playing anything but beast mastery hunters and guardian druids and even with those I can’t just bind the rotation to one or two buttons. If there are more options for me out there I would love to give them a try.
I feel like you could like Affliction warlock as it is now with the change to Unstable Affliction more of a single target spec. Your main spells are DoTs where you need to watch out if they do not expire.
Also given that you say you like Guardian druid, Protection Paladin is also still a more static spec where you cast with Consecration an AoE Spell that stays in the area and you are rewarded for staying in there with buffs. IT also has a simple rotation of 5 spells and another 5 spells on the action bar either for situationals or longer cds and you specc the Protpala arround nearly working completely on Passives.
Also what I also found whas a simple rotation whas Frostdk with only 4 buttons needed but I am not sure if this is intended or just a Misskill of mine.
I just don’t share that view.
For me it doesn’t degrade anything, because I don’t care about how I aquire an item. I care about whether or not I love a particular item and want it. That’s really all that matters to me. So multiple avenues to an item is good, imo.
I am not the type of person who finds happiness in having something that someone else doesn’t have. It doesn’t make me proud, it doesn’t bring me joy. It’s all simply about the ‘thing’ itself: If I love the look of it, the use of it, the idea of it, whatever the case; that is what matters to me.
It does to me. That’s what I meant.
Of course it will still be a valid point for you.
Exactly. And I shared mine.
This theme is quite far-moved from the topic at hand (being the mount), but as you are maybe truthful of being in need and interested:
Option 1: Madness? This. is. keyboards. Macrooooooos!
In theory, you can one-button all the specs in the game. As you had to retire from raiding in total, but want to continue, you did not hear this from me - but if you google “keyboards” “rotation” “macro”, there are some options to allow you to continue playing the game at a decent level. Not perfect reactive, (without scripts - and that would be ToS), but tools are there in a more simple format to allow you to preplan an adaptable rotation on as little as a single button. Now I don’t use this myself - my experience with it is close to none, as I prefer pressing all the buttons (as it is the fun part) and have no need of it. But I do have a friend with one hand who uses this to great effect to continue playing and enjoying the game. It is a bit “cheaty” in some people’s eyes. I stand on it being a game and he is allowed to continue having fun in a difficult situation - so for me personally, it is a clear lesser of two ‘evils’ (not being able to raid Vs using software to help play the game).
The pros of using these systems is that they are very adjustable for what you want them to do. All from just helping you, to playing for you. The cons are that if blizzard decides one day that you are moving from the tools ‘helping’ to ‘playing for’, you can see a suspension or ban. I highly recommend contacting CS directly before doing anything, as far as I know it is not directly banned from the stated purpose of helping.
Option 2: In-game boogalooo
Now, only using ingame, you can sequence macro most class openers into one button (for that encounter), your burst windows and your standard rotation. It should be around 3-4 buttons total, so wheel up, wheel down and wheel click, as an example. Allowing you to scroll up, as an example, to do your fury warrior rampages and bloodbaths, scroll down to do your BT or slam, middle mouse would be your opener. You can do this for retribution, BM, demonblade-DH and a plettra of other specs. These macros can be simplified into one button functions, but - at the cost of potential DPS your reactive input would produce.
Example: If you play ret, and you get a free Templars Verdict, you will have to delay it till the tail end of the sequence macro to get it off, as putting it in the middle would stop the sequence.
Example: You will not pop off GCD CDs at perfect timeings, even if they are cast on CD.
These kinds of setbacks.
Now, these have some pros and cons. The pro is that you always will do your rotation as intended. You can make them cower most of your needs and reduce the amounts of buttons to a minimum, if not to one, you can make a decent performing one with just the mousewheel. The performance you can gain, will only increase as you add let us say a couple of sidebuttons on the mouse - but now we moving away from the “only scroll” option. But if you are in the situation where you can only scroll the mouse, you can make scroll up your big DPS burst helper, your scroll down your base rotation helper.
Final thoughts: Reality and expectations
When do I use sequence macros personally? I use them currently for retribution, as that is my ‘I just wanna be braindead and relax after work’ char. It used to be my DH, but I like to swap it up. Before then it was my warlock, before then hunter. So on.
I have macro’d my opener and I do have the rotation on in sequence parts so I can just braindead the weekly 18s and HC raid.
Example would be this:
/cast Avenging Wrath /use 13 /use 14 /castsequence reset=7 [@cursor] Final Reckoning, Divine Toll, !Final Verdict, !Wake of Ashes, !Final Verdict
I don’t want to give you false expectations of being top 99% with this system. But, I can promise you to be mid and above. As even if you don’t cast things optimally, you still do a “perfect” stable and consistent rotation. More than good enough for HC raiding and, likely, even CE progression with the right groundwork done. HoF would likely be close to impossible, as you won’t have sources like Lorrgs and Logs to preplan every encounter. Not to mention, the inability to prefectly react and adapt on the fly. Your encounter will be mostly done in the preplan phase, but this is arguably the same as deciding your spec and gearing options. A fun an integral part of the game, not the be shrugged away.
If nothing else, you can use sequence macros to remove quite a few buttons. Hopefully to be able to fit your needs. Go to class discords, and ask what abilities can work together as one function. You can use them to reduce stress on your hands, and help you with your minds focus when a lot is happening.
There are also theory/sim-crafters, that can create a custom Action Priority List for you, to minmax your gamestyle. As the gearing for a static rotation is not the same as for a fluid one.
From one raider, player and human being to another. I hope and wish you the very best of possible recovery, and that your situation is not so dire that raiding is truly lost to you forever. That these tools and options will be at least helpful to get you back to dabble in the experience and, I truly hope, that you will be able to raid again if that is your want.
Wanted to come back and thank you for the kind comment! I’ll give warlock and paladin a whirl. Was initially put off of them because friends mentioned them having an excessive number of active abilities.
That was impeccable timing! You posted just as I did.
I’m going to contact customer service and see what they say. Used to rely on an addon that automated rotation during WoD but got a ban so I never did it again. Had a stroke during Cataclysm but found raiding still doable without any help up until the end of Pandaria. Siege of Orgrimmar really upped the ante and that was the last raid I got AOTC on. Started using that rotation addon in Highmaul and the account was banned during Blackrock Foundry progress. I absolutely deserved the ban, no arguments.
Don’t blame Blizzard for making the game more difficult but I feel it does leave people with less skill in the dust. If raids were still like in classic or even Wrath I could easily tackle them and parse middle of the pack at least but encounters like N’zoth or Tindral are far more difficult than anything before Pandaria.
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This is an afterthought but I theorize that much of the difficulty increase comes from an increasing number of mechanics bricking the fight if even just one or two players in a raid group screw up. There’s no space for anyone but the best while in older raids a decent group could bring a few less skilled and less experienced players and still succeed.
pally is nice. at first is a bit slow. But is simple and enjoyable. I still have 3 pallys now
That raid is a little over a decade old now. People who earned it have enjoyed it for a decade.
Most people who earned that mount probably still don’t play.
So why does it matter?
It’s the only other class, besides hunter obviously, that I’ve mained (even though it was only for 3-4 months). I love the ‘fantasy’ of a paladin.
You probably wanted to keep this one to yourself.
Otherwise, no one else here pioneers for these stuff to end up as a battle pass reward, and that is correct. I’m someone who’s been getting all of these kind of rewards every time for many years now and (despite this) I want to see them return - of course, with the appropriate challenge tied to it. “Giving up” and “inaccessible due to barriers” is tough luck.
i think i have mained everything except DH and rogue (and drachtyr ofc). Tryin priest now and it could be the main one in TWW