Hey, i’m having some trouble trying do M+ i’ve done almost all keys on a +13 and i’m approx 1.05k rio with 214 ilvl.
I seemingly can’t get picked up for any m+ 14’s and i tend to get removed from grps if i don’t tell before hand that i’m arcane. I’m not sure i understand the mentality but why is it i can get into m+13’s and not m+14’s ?
I can’t do 14’s at all, i really can’t figure out what the issue is, is arcane really that terrible when doing higher keys? Is my Ilvl too low or is my Rio terrible?
I’ve signed up for atleast 60 m+'s today and i’m kind and informative i write in the little box that “Hey i’m arcane” so people don’t get suprised. But i’ve not been given the chance once. Not a single time. It’s not an isolated instance i’m facing.
Are you guys having better experiences than i am having with Arcane and trying to push keys?
14s are the lowest you can do for the highest ilvl in you weekly chest. The competition for 14s is huge! So when your applying for 14s your up against everyone else’s tooltip and player perception that Fire is so much better than Arcane.
You could try and push your own key, play with guildies, join a m+ community or keep pluging away.
When my DH tank gets geared, I’m gonna do ‘weekly key for nonmeta specs’ in lfg .
No I had the exact same problem, but managed to do a few community runs with people that arent meta slaves (community : gnomies).
Even if I try to pug a 14 key - when I´ve timed a 16 I get asked “are you fire”.
You are hindering youself by saying that, because people will inevitably think there’s something wrong with you that makes you have to say it.
You are giving importance to something irrelevant and make it sound like it’s something gamebreaking so obviously people will refuse to pick you over the other hundred of DPS applying.
honestly? i am facing the issues as well on arcane, the rotations what we have now are to difficult to maintain it hase at least 4 phases, opener, mini burst, Actual burst, and convergence phases. i mean what the actualy hell just happend? Fire cans till use only 3 or 4 buttons of rotations, and frost i bet would have the same amount of skills usage as well.
Arcane needs a quality of life changes now, not to mention due to the broken conduit for fire mages with in low gear they can bascily remove you from the DPS list existance cost its bacame a broken meta spec now. forst also had 2 times in a row damage buffs. arcane needs that as well, and also needs some sirius changes when it comes to quality of life changes. becasue it is hard to maintain constant high damage due to our mana pool, and how expensive is arcane, not to mention have also have to deal with movment mechanics as well, so you would loos dps becasue of that as well. Most of the community is only accepting fire now becasue of one and true reason: Exploit. and thats a fact. Period.
So i decided to push my own key up. Seeing only max 50 applicants to my +13 key have made me a bit un-understanding of the situation i was facing the last couple of days because after having listed a +14 DoS after i pushed my own key i ended up getting 961 applicants before i closed the que.
There’s a massive amount of applicants for +14 exactly for the reason. It gives 226 gear and it’s the lowest key you can do. So it had nothing to do with arcane neither ilvl or Rio.
Arcane is quite good in m+ keys, maybe not at MDI competitive level, but if you push, you can do +18-20s even.
It’s just our overall performance in most other aspects is low, so the community perception of the spec makes LFG a nightmare.
And that’s probably the worst thing, whenever blizzard just ignores us for so long, the reputation of Arcane just goes to sh*t and we have to suffer through it.
Had a DH tank leave an 11 key(!) cause I was frost. It was tyrannical week but still. It was even HoA and I was the only venthyr.
I think he was not pleased with feeling forced to play DH tank and others could enjoy the spec they liked. Some people just have the mentality of “meta or gtfo” applied to lower keys.
I was doing +15 ToP last night and my freind was lead he decided to pickup a 1600 rio Dh tank, Holy Priest and boomkin.
I’ve never seen people play woose than them. They pulled the first set of trash in ToP and it killed us 3 times because the tank wouden’t leave the add that does the tantrum be. So it AoE wiped us cuz the healer coulden’t keep up.
Worst part is they where a premade grp and they told me i was trash. Despite the fact i did not kill the party 3 times on the first pull. Because, how can i kill the party?
it’s because of how fire is so far further then arcane and also people see all the players in mdi and in different tournies and streamers etc use fire and they see a lot of info that promotes fire over any higher mage spec.
It happens, I had this again, but in a raid today. The other mage was sheeping Barghast shade as a fire mage and kept waking it it with his firespam. He blamed me for triggering, said he’d uploaded clip to youtube lol. Dude was nuts, literally he triggered the brake, pulled it onto Barg which was actively being DPS’d. Call went out to DPS it, so we did. Then he blamed me in chat for it.
Dude was nuts, but I figured out why he had gone ape at me, he was jealous of my mage’s username and said that before stopping furiously messaging me like an angry little four year old.
I ignored most of the little emo kids messages like they were hot trash.
After the idiot left, we killed raid boss two with ease, no sheep break. The guy was a complete idiot who couldn’t mage play if it hit him over the head with a barge pole.
Always laugh at this, I hear some horror stories from guildies and it’s just crazy. Meta slavery actually seems worse in the 7-11 range, people think it’s the reason they fail keys cos they don’t know any better.
FYI the boomie can soothe that cast to stop it. That pull is easy with a soothe, but if the healer couldn’t keep up with all their cds and a full mana bar, it’s better that key died early.
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