I am eyeballing arcane mages. But the spec seems complicated to learn, is that right? Or easier than it seems?
Kyrian Arcane is pretty straight forward. Usually played in 45 second burst cycles.
AOE rotation is a little different but still mostly tied into the same 45 second burst cycles.
Which doesnt answer my question. How complicated is it to play arcane?
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I answered your question in the first sentence.
“Kyrian Arcane is pretty straight forward”.
Useless answer is useless. I want to know about the complexity of the rotation, if its easy to deal with or what?
Well, you get a useless answer when you ask a useless question. If a spec seems to complicated, haven’t you already answered your own question? Have you heard of icy-veins? Oh wait, I have a better one, heard about “class trial” ?
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there is nothing especially difficult about the rotation: it’s all knowledge, decisionmaking and a few weakauras
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It barely playable, even as kyrian. You need stay at one spot for 5-10 sec, and hope that nothing interrupt you. But it seems we have only one raid left so, you might consider try it anyway. As for rotation, - the rotations that is suggested in guides for non kyrina is something out hardcore Fly Simulator or Mechwarrios series, - first you stay in one spot for 10 sec spamming AB and hope and pray that you get 3 clearcast procs, assuming you got them and you dont need now do mechanics - you use evocation to proc legendary (another 5-8 sec) - then - if your team not finished the fight yet - use Touch+AP and discharge all clear casts. It probably most challenging spec out all 3, because you REALLY need to know boss mechanics, but not necessarily worth-ly challenge.
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I always find it so funny that people see non-kyrian arcane as a turret even though as venthyr you can get off your entire burst 100% on the move since you should be running slipstream and with the 3 guaranteed clearcasts from mirrors you just need one proc to get the entire length of your Touch on the move. Then you can use presence of mind to use the last few seconds of your Arcane Power. It’s definitely easier to pull off than kyrian.
Venthyr looking much stronger than nf for 9.2 aswell. With the extra mobility it could challenge kyrian for bis.
I think Venthyr has a good shot at becoming meta for raids, especially if we can get Arcane Power down to a 1min cd with Arcane Prodigy.
Kyrian will stay meta for M+ though.
Kyrian arcane is pretty easy to play but also very punishing if anything messes with your setup.
You mostly channel arcane missiles to build harmony and then every 45 second.
Spark> touch>Arcane power>AB until 4 stacks where you AB into barrage.
If power on CD start with rune of power.
The idea is to repeat this every 45 second.
You also need to do this fairly close to the target due to barrage having a slow travel time to make sure it hits before touch expires, you need about 14-15% haste to ensure this combo works reliably. you can work around this by using frost bolt after casting spark.
If you wanna read up on arcane
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Well he asked normal question (how complex a spec is from people experience), but for some reason forum haters started attacking him. Just answer his question or walk-by.
His question was very legit and not useless.
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I play both pvp and Pve at relatively high levels.
I would rate it a difficult -
Tricky things :
Kyrian spell will affect your arcane barrage as well as your 5th arcane blast on last stack. (No way to know that except reading it somewhere)
Your arcane barrage projectile speed is affected by your haste stat, this will change the distance at which you need to be from your target in order to fit in the optimal number of arcane blasts during touch of the magi. (Can use weak auras for distance calcul)
Mana gestion between packs in m+
Balancing your crit stat in PvE
That’s what I have found difficult
Also, forgot to add (same person)
Picking the right target to burst and funnel on during mm+ big pulls can be hard as you need a lot of setting up and if the target dies during burst you are f Ed
kyrian really doesnt need a lot of setup, you want to go into every pull with max harmony stacks and then you just hardcast on the prio mob (either a dangerous mob or the one with most HP). if it dies during totm you need to move up in keylevel
If you fight the target dummy, it’s the easiest spec in the universe. If you are fighting a hard boss it’s the hardest because you no longer need to just know the rotation but you need to know when to use it.
WW forcing me to go +20 to get to do my setups =,D
I’m doing my 20+ and I can tell you that’s BS
Bursty classes is the meta and you’ll need to be careful
what is BS exactly?