Dear blizzard.
It’s frustrating. Every day i see new player who can’t believe how poor arcane is playing and how it doesn’t fit the modern raid encounters plus how weak it’s dmg output is on some fights.
Isn’t it time now to do something?
What’s our role? Single target? Meh, fire can do so much better thanks to their mobility. Cleave? Fire. Aoe? ‘Go frost’
Sometimes i feel like an alien. “Wow an arcane mage, i never see one of you guys”
I mean wtf… i am happy for you dear diehard fire-mages but why is it the second cpack in a row where fire is in a so much better place?(when played properly)
We are now on the third raid tier this expansion… and like in legion ToS(3rd tier) fire is the very best mage spec.
Arcanes last strong tier was HFC, since then it got punished in nearly every raid.
We have SO many pretty shiny purple visuals that fits arcane mage perfectly but we’re still stuck with arcane blast spam. Thank you very much.
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Because Arcane is least gear dependand so it shines at the beginning of the expansion, Fire needs gear and proper stats to start being OP. So if someone survived from 8.0 to 8.2.5 as fire mage he has cool spec now 
The same goes for shadow priest, we were trash until 8.1.5, now we are shining if played with proper traits. If you are freaking about numbers, then maybe arcane is not for you.
You should know that 1 button spec can’t compete with harder classes because that would be unfair to other specs.
That’s really funny because most people say arcane will rise at the end of an xpack.
If you REALLY press only one button then ofc arcane is weak damage, sure. It is still about mana management. The blue mana bar is not just a candy bar like frost or fire. You have to watch your mana carefully and you have to know when to useROP and cds etc.
Are you serious when you say that all other caster specs are so much harder? Sorry mate but this is simply not true. 100 % not true.
I played warlock in dazar alor. Bro u can out dps every mage spec while watching netflix.
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I didn’t say you cannot, but mage as arcane is simple, waiting for certain % of mana to use Evo, then in conserve phase using arcane blast to certain stack, then when evo cd pops up you use all cds and spam only 1 button, it’s really simple, so no effort no reward, other classes need more effort and reward more etc. IF you want to top dps as arcane mage you can always make an alt at 15- 60 level range and do rdf.
I’ll admit it was more challenging in legion…
But still it feels like no one ever gave a fck about this spec since legion.
See - I don’t need to be top top top dps. I am just sick of being dead last. Over and over again.
You act like we need to be a doctor for EVERY other spec in this game. That is just false and no excuse at all that it is in a bad spot, sorry. I am sure you are happy and all because spriest is so ridicilous broken OP… i am sure its fun. but there are other specs that needs both: number tuning and rework.
IF this spec would be totally rebuilt, then i would have nothing against arcane being top dps.
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Again: It’s not about being nr. 1 dps. It’s more about parses/result. No matter how high you parse as arcane , you will be slightly behind every other spec if they parse the same or even a bit under.
Just take zaq’ul for an example. If i spec full aoe i have 4-5 buttons to push, not only ab spam, and still a spriest CAN do 3x the damage as me. That is the point where i say something went hoooooorribly wrong.
Edit: wait dude… i don’t see any raidprogress in bfa on your toon. What was your last raid tier?
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Arcane has the same problem as Frost-DK.
There is simply no place in WoW for Speccs evolving around long Cooldowns.
Too many Adds, too much can go wrong during the Burstwindow. Too little Impact during the Conserve-Phases. Plus a perfect rotation takes a lot of Focus, which can easily kill you in a complex Bossfight.
All this could be forgiven if the Speccs would be Top-DPS if played perfectly. But they arent. So why play a Specc that punishing for no reward.
Do you mean unholy dk right? Cause i see a lot of ppl playing frost and its like 3rd dps in eternal palace ^^
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I wouldn’t call 1,5 minutes long but I see what you mean.
Arcane was fun in Legion. It isn’t anymore in BfA and that is my main problem with it. I already made a post in another thread, I’ll see wether I can find it.
Arcane is my favurite spec, or was. I really want to like it after the changes they did in Legion, but meh… just can’t.
If they would let arcane missiles stack up to 3 like it was and should be I tell you: alone that little change what can be made with some mouse clicks(!!!) would improve the spec so much in gameplay and a bit in dps.
Because in raids we would choose slipstream then for mobility. Why is it that hard to make simple changes?
Caating arcane missles while moving and having 3 stacks of them would be so cool
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Yes! It must be natural to have 3 stacks. It was in legion and it was just logical. Who the hell wants AB spam? In a good raidencounter in legion your missiles did the most damage. Then slightly under it was AB. That was fun, a rotation.
It also is super easy to just let that happen.
All the functions are already in the game. It’s so obvious that this little change would bring nothing but joy to this spec but they let this mess of a spec in the dirt on purpose. I just don’t understand!
This is the reason why i am upset. This is not an exam or something. It is really easy to fix it just for the rest of bfa but they do absolutely nothing.
We spend hours and hours making good suggestions, asking questions but it seems there is not a single dude in that company that cares. We could also talk to a wall. That’s just rude.
Sadly they said in the early stages of BFA that there wont be any class changes during the expansion, only number tunning, which is dumb af, but there seem to be enough ppl who are so braindead that they want classes to remain the same, and i quote “im tired to relearn my class every new expansion bcs of changes” Pepega Clap
I don’t get that aswell. Because they ‘changed’ fire mage with awesome essences and awesome wrists from the mechagon dungeon. They dance their way round to change classes on items or ‘essences’.
Why don’t stop pretending ‘we don’t change classes’ and give arcane some damn deserved love because they do it through item-effects like they did in 8.2 with fire mages.
But yeah it seems that we just can’t have nice things as arcane.
I mean they don’t even have to do that much to make arcane a decent spec… Buff Equipoise dmg so we can do single target dmg compered to the others and change Arcane Orb from talent to a spell so we can actually use it. If you have to choose between Arcane Orb and 60% dmg buff, well there is no real choice. Arcane Orb would make this spec do more aoe dmg, help you sustain mana and it adds 1 more button to press which is always nice.
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In M+ i always run orb because of that sweet barrage - orb - barrage. Pretty nice if you have 3 x pressure trait with you 
But that’s the next problem. More spells must be baseline. Right now have to switch 3 pieces of azerite gear and change 3-4 talents for M+ to be semi competitiv It’s so silly…
There is no way you go arcane orb for m+… It is huge dmg loss even in aoe.
Try it.
I know man i sometimes do but without orb it is so so boring… it also doesn’t matter too much in 10-13 keys.
I was thinking of nether tempest but yeah it just can’t compete with reverberate wich is another passiv
…i guess we have to wait no matter what. 9.0 is the chance for the devs to make a lot of things good