I really dont see techical issue with making it premade vs premade. I don’t care if premades will have long queues. Not to mention if the queues get longer it would incentivize people queueing solo. It’s the price they will have to play for wanting that playstyle. If I’m not mistaken the game is running over a Legion client with a skin on it. Legion had RBGs, which is premade vs premade with attached raiting system to it.
So what’s the excuse for not acting yet again on what should be a core feature of every game that has PvP on it. And since it is “Seaon of Discovery” let’s not hide behind “no changes” dialog.
It’s not laziness, it’s the way I enjoy playing the game. Stomping pugs as premade is no fun for me, it’s not challenging or interesting for that matter. I just don’t see the appeal of it. If we had raiting system, I’m all for it. However your comment is more than enough to understand where you and your capabilities in the game are coming from, so there is no need to continue our discussion. I’m sure pIalying premades into pugs makes you feel good the game and all
I like to just solo queu as well and find out some PVP, not to be stumbled across a premade that consists sololy of those perfect classes that are way to OP at this moment.
Yea, if you want coordinated battle, then you should be able to, join a premade or make one yourself, but there are ppl who dont want to stress about it, not being the right class, right spec, do always the right thing.
Why there is no option to join solo or with only one or two friends and have a fun. There is the option for solo queue, but right now its not pleasent experience. The focus should be to make all possible playstyles and options as enjoyable as possible, not gatekeeping fun behind forced group play.
There is a reason why we can join a bg solo, because it’s intended by Blizzard. It’s not about being lazy, some people prefer to play 1-2 games solo and be done with it for that day.
And let’s be real most try hard premade groups, will be so strict and be all over you about gear score and having the right spec and class, people just don’t want to be put up with that garbage. If this was different then perhaps more people would want to try it out but that’s a whole other topic.
There should be different queues for premade vs solo, end of story.
Guess what - there is also a reason why group can join bg as group - because it’s intended by Blizzard.
In my, personal, opinion - this is a completely player solvable issue. It would be nice if Blizzard maybe made some sort of real solo queue, but if they won’t - I can’t blame people for ganging up to farm BGs.
And it’s totally not outlandish to ask other people do the same if they are so bothered.
So the best way to solve this is to separate the queues because it’s negatively effecting the solo queue by a lot. Both can’t work together in this case, anyone can play either way that’s fine but to at least expect similar challenge and setup is just logical.
Premade vs premade
Solo groups vs solo groups
Make perfect sense. You all defending the premade vs solo queue just want the free honor and afraid to face similar challenge. It’s hard as it is to communicate with other solo people (which is fine but should be the same on the opposing side) let alone facing a premade group that follows someone else lead.
Guess what, it’s because it wasn’t even in their initial thoughts or plans. We all know (or at least those that played) that bgs weren’t even in the game. They designed them with the 2004-2005 mindset and didn’t even polished/optimized them even for the time.
In classic they saw what a $sh1tshow it was and took them about 2years to reduce the premade size down to 5 during TBC. That was intended too, no? And with more “modernized/adapted” mindset.
If it was intended 2 years ago i don’t see why it can’t be intended now. Oh wait, cause of the classic andys and their #nOcHaNgEs
Ok here we go again…
Classic pvp is not like retail or wotlk classic.
In retail you have normal bg and competitive bgs. Normal bgs reward you with a few preBiS gear, if you want the BiS gear you have to go competitive(RBG).
In classic era pvp BiS gear can be obtained by BGs which are supposed to be played by groups, solo join is optional and it has consequences.
If you want relaxing BGs you could ask for solo join only in a BG without rewards (honor, marks, rep) only HKs. You can’t have same benefits with coordinating premades.
It’s not about queue times.
Ok lets say they separate solo and group join
First of all group join will die instantly and noone is going to make premades after except a few tryhards who will trade wins with each other and make it even easier for them to rank up and if it happens a random group gets in there way they will crash it in GY till they disband.
Then it leaves the vast majority of players with the solo queue options where they have to team up and suffer with semiafk pvers who cry a lot when they don’t get carried
This is my issue with you defending the premade group so much, why on earth would ANYONE join a bg solo unless there are no rewards for it? Who are you to even determine that this way of playing is less worth than a premade group?
In my eyes premade group currently want an easy farm vs solo players to try and make themselves feel good, therefor no rewards should be rewarded for them for this attitude. See how I just turned your logic against you?
Stop try justifying this, premade vs solo have no place with each other period.
Not gonna lie, stopped reading there. Classic andy spotted.
And classic pvp is not SoD pvp my friend. Classic was over a couple years ago, you can go back in pservers or in dark rooms to maintain your nostalgia.
Classic andys were crying a month or so ago that SoD is not Classic wow, guess what. WE KNOW IT AND THAT’S WHY WE PLAY IT ATM.
SoD was supposed to change what’s not fun, that’s why we get all the abilities, new event and raid, new proff recipes. How is your Classic kill command btw? oh it’s a retail skill, right?
If you don’t like that i have one more for you.
Change the matchmaking system to
Never create a team with those who join solo, stay in queue till there a spot in a premade to fill
A BG is not intended to be played solo. Team play has always been required to win.
This is an MMO not a single player, if you don’t want to play as a team that is your problem.
Many of you solo players go afk in BGs, you think this is fair?
Solo players don’t care about their faction players at all.
Just because you join solo does not mean you suddenly play a single player game. You still play with other people, just random groups. You still play with a team, as a team only difference is you don’t create the group before you join the battle.
Is that the best you can come up with?
I guess you were about to type your favorite “#nochangesgotoretail” which you probably have tattooed by now, but then you remembered that it was Blizz that started changed things so you dried out of arguments or smt
