There’s like only 1 spec good per patch/expansion, while others are poopo
Was this made on purpose? DKs in lore suffer 24/7, thats why they are so irritated when you talk to them. They even say stuff like “suffer eternally” or something
Just like us
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Why do you think Frost is poop? Is it just because it’s not as good as Unholy? Because compared to other classes Frost is in the middle of the pack. And you still bring Grip, CR and AMZ as a Frost DK. So I don’t see how it’s poop other than Unholy is better.
if you play the class/spec and/or have played it since wrath you should understand why we dont like it, do you want a rogue to be dependent on a channel skill " poison breath" where you have to stick to a target while your combo points drain steadily and you have to mash SS to keep it above 0 combo points, mind you that DK’s have a slow base GCD than rogues aswell so while “poison breath” is active your GCD becomes “balanced” too 
this “poison breath” is also where all your damage lies so your kit is balanced around it, an optional talent.
and if you want to PvP you must pick a mandatory PvP talent “bouncing dagger” it’s exustance also keeps the rest of your kit low on the damage outside very specific Cooldowns, because a max bounce “bouncing dagger” does so much damage Omg! nerf pls (in the 3 in 10 cases where you have 2 people ignoring it and it can bounce max times.
Oh… and your crimson vial heal for 10% in pvp situations, just cuz
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its kinda like this for every class in the game with very few exception, mainly warriors.
DW breath seems to be working just fine, and it seems with higher ilvl the diference between frost and unholy (and other specs) is not that big.
its the 2H frost thats subpar, ill give u that
i know that this argument is true but breath according to my opinion does not belong on this class, when it was a talent for all specs? it might have, but it becoming Frost only in legion is a slap in the face in how forced it was on us, so many good ideas when they remade all three DK specs in legion and now, 4+ years later, it seems and feel like many of the bad ideas stuck with the design, while the good was pruned, because the one dev doing all classes dont play DK. Simple as Necro my dude.
thats like playing unh with the wrong talents and complaining unh is poop
fyi, i dont like breath as i still think its too much mechanicaly unfriendly for a melee spec
Btw this is rly annoyong, a lot of players complain about BOS cuz they dont know how to play it, saw this trend on forums since legion. I love it for example and most of the pve dk-es like it when frost is better thne uh is because bos is rly strong, has a high skill cap and its a rly unique ability. And dual wiled is fine wioth bos, we ware crying for 2hand frost , blizz gave us 2 hand ffrost and its rly good in pvp. so yeah … UH dk top in pve, 2hand frost is rly good in 3s and atm 2hand frost ofc is not that good it will scale in future patches btw
BoS should just be an AOE RP dump. No CD. You just use it whenever you have RP and want to AOE instead of using FS. That would be much better in my opinion. Because Frost should really have an AOE RP dump like Unholy has Epidemic.
This hurts my soul. 
I’d say it’s more because of the fact that we’re tuned around it and do mediocre to underwhelming damage while it’s down. Same goes for PvP with Pillar of Frost and Obliteration.
When a spec is balanced around one or two burst abilities then I’d say that spec has a severely flawed design which needs to be reviewed and changed for the better. And Frost isn’t the only one. A solid number of specs suffer from the same issue at the moment.
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I played BoS half of legion, it’s far from the big brain galaxy execution everyone praises it to be, you pool RP, you press Hungering runeweapon and remorseless winter with pillar, then you mash oblit as soon as you go below 80 RP, ignoring rime procs unless you’re playing nighthold patch, infact i could not disagree more with your entire post and i cant be arsed to repeat my same points across my countless rants on this insane asylym of a forum.
breath is all about timing not realy skill, it has a simple rotation after you line everything up and use it. its 2 min cd wich is why i dont like it. the sustain damage is already bad
Some1 whispered my DK last night and called me a “FOTM GARBAGE REROLLER”
So i guess were op right?
KEKW
Why? Unholy is great in raids and m+. Blood also got incredible legendary now in 9.0.5.
yeh we all care about m+ waooow
both unh and DW frost (breath and obliteration) are doing good in m+ and raids with current gear. blood is still great for raids and now with DRW leggy m+ feels way better as its up every pull.
the only one that is really falling behind is 2H frost which has to many downsides in comparison to both DW styles.
DW actualy makes RW a big source of dmg outside of pilar/breath windows (which is a major complain of 2H) if u manage the GS stacks properly due to razorice. and im not even going into chains of ice and drake scaling with the extra rune.
in pvp yes
in pve unh is good
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