How much money do you think average BFA players spend on tokens? Doesn’t this kinda tank the economies, though? Aren’t these things super gross?
1 Like
Only them booster scabs buy them now.
1 Like
Hard to say, I spent a little over a million gold I had extra from clicking buttons in the mobile app back in Legion.
Pretty good if you ask me, if only this option was available earlier. 
Are WOW tokens bad for realm economy? Sounds like they are, did someone from Blizzard just go “F*** it, let’s just drain the whales and get those Q3 profits up, else we’re all fired.”
Well, they don’t affect economy at all. Tokens don’t generate gold. They move it from one player to another.
4 Likes
Ah! OK, thank you, well that’s not bad then, that makes more sense, so there’s no inflation issues or stuff like that from it?
shareholders probably pushed for more revenue and this is why we now have the shop with all its over priced stuff.
if tokens do anything it creates wealth class.
some folks have millions and some have hundreds so id say yes it has a effect on the social structure of the game.
I think it does do massive damage to the economy when a lot of players dont buy anything off others and just save all their money for tokens. Was selling cheap agility flasks on eonar had lots in and sold 2 stacks for example.
I don’t think so, because you can only sell the token to other players for gold, not to Blizzard. So no additional gold appears in the game with any token-related transaction. If anything, it lowers the money supply because of the AH cut.
1 Like
Thanks, if this is the case then we’ll probably see tokens in Classic down the line, then, there are people making seriously huge amounts of gold there right now, abusing layering etc.
They’ll have to redistribute that wealth fairly without resorting to real money trade people taking over Classic.
Cool, I’m actually cool with tokens now.
Tokens don’t fall under the usual AH deposit and cut category though.
It’s a direct transaction between players - what you see is what you get.
1 Like
Doesn’t Blizzard still take the cut from that?
Even if that’s the case, there’s no inflation or deflation.
I think there would be a backlash if tokens got put into classic.
I remember gold being so hard to come by back then. So little of it that 350G seemed like a fortune. having insta 200k would def mess things up there for a good while
The “cut” is that a €25 token buys you one month of game time as opposed to regular €13 should you buy it for money 
But nobody buys a €25 token to turn it into game time, you sell it for gold, which is the point 
Okay, so basically in the end, one player buys the 200K or so gold for €25 and the other player spends this 200K gold for €13 worth of game time.
Yup.
But the gold price changes depending on supply and demand (or so they say)
I remember back in Legion, a token cost about 360k if I’m not mistaken.
During BfA, it went as low as 140k. That’s where my Legion mission table gold came in handy
The price usually goes up during some major releases, which includes other Actiblizz games that you can basically buy for WoW gold too.
Not sure if memory serves right, but in a way they do generate gold, just not way too much. I recall a Blue post back in the day when the wow token was first introduced.
Say for example the WoW Token right now costs 200k gold, I buy it with real money to put it on AH for the current price which is 200k gold, and then within a couple of hours the price drops down to 190k and someone buys my token for 190k, I will still earn 200k because that was the price when i first listed it, so it generates about 10k gold.
At least that’s what i remember.
Edit: I stand correct.
-
Visit any Auction House and click on the “Auctions” tab. Right-click on your
WoW Token to have it show up under “Auction Item.” -
When the auction is set up, it will display the current fixed gold price and the estimated time to sell. If you are happy with the price, click the “Create Auction” button. You do not set the price, Blizzard does via their internal algorithm based off supply and demand.
-
A confirmation window will pop up stating the exact gold price, that your Token can’t be refunded, and that the auction cannot be cancelled. If you are fine with this, click on “Create Auction.”
-
The Auction is now created and shows up with your other auctions on the “Auction” tab.
-
The seller cannot specify the Buyout price and Auction Duration for the
WoW Token, and buyers can only buyout WoW Token, not bid. There is no deposit. -
You are sent the amount of gold promised to you in the confirmation window. If the price of the token has gone up or down since you listed it, that does not affect the amount of gold you will get.
Ye. That scenario is possible in theory, however its very extreme. It would happen if, after you put your own token on AH, there is sudden, massive increase in supply. Even then price change by the time you sell your token would be very small.
As long as boosting, and in a much lesser degree BOE farming exists in this game, yea. Tokens are bad.
The average player? Probably not much and not often. From what I recall reading a while back. WoW had an economy crisis and brought in a real live economist to fix their economy. Part of the result of that was apparently WoW tokens, which spunge up excess amounts of gold from the economy, stopping it from crashing.
Yeah, better let the men of orient take care of the business 