I have a thought that it would be very cool to have a PVP-only server where there are no PVE content at all.
The experience would be that you can make characters with any allowed class/race combination there is. Once logged in you would find your self in a capital city and with no gear. Free vendors will give you the gladiator gear associated with your class. Gems/enchants/engineering can be selected on each piece by simple menu upon right click or something.
Guilds and parties can be formed to battle in arenas and battlegrounds.
Once you get higher ranking this will unlock titles, mounts, transmogs and other cool stuff that has no real effect on your damage output or mitigation. The gameplay shall be purely skill based with the minimal effect that selecting trinkets, rings, enchants for your gear brings.
There would be a webpage that lists current player rankings, and you can view their enchant selection etc. All to make sure that it’s based on skill only.
This is my initial thought and I’m sure the community has much more to add. The most important part is that you don’t need to spend time farming PVE content at all to get going. You can play with your friends as much or as little as you like. You reach the ranking you deserve by skill not by the amount of PVE hours you want to put in. Of course, you would gain benefit in skill by playing more hours than other players. But this is then not any time you need to waste on PVE content or lore.
You don’t have to PVE at all for PVP gear as it is.
What you’re suggesting is the dream of many PVP players, but it would diminish the MMO aspect, so blizz will never do it.
I personally like getting a conquest piece every week and growing stronger. Getting the best gear for free would not make me feel better or play the game more
The issue as I see it that sometimes PVE items can be better than PVP items. Not sure if it is in retail right now. haven’t played it because it is so much grind just to get to max lvl. Then at max level you have to spend countless hours just to get crappy gear and have no chance in pvp. With my suggested server it would be possible to balance classes/races very easy as there are no other factors going into the mix for blizz.
The idea of PVP for me is that it should be just that PvP not Player with little time versus player with lots of time and therefore also rewarded ridiculous amount of much better gear. It’s just not only down to skills now. You also have to put in tons of hours just to get to the same playing field. If all had the same stats and the only differences are how you gem and enchant the difference would be only skills. Which is also mostly time and some talent. But then it is more balanced than today and fair.
If there are enough player base you could also make it so that when you go up in rank you end up in new brackets. This would give your character more powerful gear but then you wouldn’t be able to play against players in the lower bracket with less gear. With my suggested server it would still be ranking brackets like it is today. High ranked players should not match against lower ranked players. You would still need to advance in ranks to get to play against the best. This way you grow as a person rather than the character growing much stronger then new players and therefore making it so unbalanced that it is impossible to beat them even with skill. I do understand that very skilled players will be able to beat unskilled players almost if not fully nude. And this is where the ranked brackets would help.
I don’t think MMO is going away with such a server. It is still going to be online, still have massive amount of players and it is definitely multiplayer as you have to fight with someone and against other people as well. And are you referring to MMORPG I believe most of that is already gone as you can LFG and basically not talk to anyone in the game and still play all content so RPG is not really in the mix if you don’t want to. The same would be true for this PVP server. You could RPG with friends and foes if you wanted to but there is no requirement for you to sit through quest lines and grinds of professions etc.
NOPE , this system is awful because good luck gearing alts against people with full conquest , you just enter bg and just afk to collect wins and get enough gear to stand even chance , oh you loss match ? well you just wasted time
not to mention vault and weekly bloody coin gears you will be permanently behind as an alt character incase your main got nerfed to the ground and you want to get new class to even compete
PS: and no unlock infinite conquest storage when season near its end like right now won’t change anything , since conquest gear will be replaced with honor gear next month anyways , so might aswell wait 1 month and not wasting any time , money and effort till season 3 happens and rest gear
also not to mention right now people stacking tons of sockets gem from weekly vault so even if you have full enchant , conquest gear , emblishment you still permanently behind interm of gem sockets
wrong
u afk in bgs for honor gear because why not and then u farm low cr 2s/3s
30 wins each is enough to get fully conq geared
and no, u can easily kill 450 people with 437 gear if u outskill them, its not even about class/spec as these people on low ratings are usually just press 123 W
if u cant kill 1-1.6k mmr people even with 437 honor gear - well, ggs, skill issue buddy
As I mentioned, of course skilled players will be able to beat unskilled players even in worse gear. But the problem I see is that there even a debate on the gear. With a PVP server it wouldn’t be in the discussion and balancing classes will be easier with less gear input.
I’m probably not that skilled of a player, but even to get to the level where I can start to train my skill in PVP I need to spend more time than I would like to. With a PVP server I would be ready to compete with everyone from second 1. And of course I would be on the lower tiers. But if I can spend no time on all the grind and all time on the pvp then I might feel it worth my time and train in PVP.
i like how you take my post out of context and start typing nonsense
“and no, u can easily kill 450 people with 437”
umm you sure speaking about the same game ??
bro you seems clueless as hell and don’t know what you talking about , if you can’t understand 437 will get you nuked against full conquest gear then you either new to the game or straight away troll , only skill issue is you have is you don’t understand how numbers work
and many people who play at low rating are not new players who download the game yesterday but glads on their alt character abusing flavor of the month , git gud kiddo ,
PS: also i blocked you so don’t bother replying.
if u’re speaking about classic then i’ve played preg/aff (OP af comp btw, kindly suggest to try it) with my retail mate who was playing wotlk for the first time (he only played cata at privates) with his full s5 gear (and no pve outside h++ dungeons) up to 2.5cr last week
unviable to play vs full geared people, true, buddy
“glads abusing flavor of the month” will NEVER play at low rating outside like 2-3 matches because their mmr will skyrocket haha
oh and btw about the sockets from the weekly vault - we actually need only 3 of those nowadays - helm, waist and wrist, lol
neck x3 are sold at the AH, rings get them automatically when u craft a 450 one
Nope, but you can craft PvE items with PvP token that would give them itemlevel in PvP, for example lariat (which can be pretty good depending on your build).
So you would need at least crafters with recipes
The only situation that comes to my mind where something requiring PvE is better than pure PvP gear is Outlaw Rogue and maybe Fistweaver where crafted weapons are better.
You cannot craft them as there are no conquest weapon tokens but besides that every other spec just gets away without playing any PvE.
Well. I can see this working however I don’t feel Havoc needs more damage. It’s extremely squishy though. On the other hand I tried Feral myself recently and top players make it glass cannon too. Literally 0 survivability but insane damage potential so maybe they go all in into pressure.
