Arms warrior nerf when?

I’m not even talking about the spear, which is tied to the damage from the crits because of the talent, which just overlaps sac. What a clown are you… :clown_face: :clown_face: :clown_face:

if you ros high and there are no other targets sweeping strikes unhinged should not 1 shot you by any means with no crit modifier, u must be doing something terribly wrong or ur never topped by your healer

nah, just go nerf warrior, because i can’t survive!111!11 it’s not because i’m bad, it’s because warriors is OP!11! :sob: :sob: :sob:

Its never just the warrior whaling on me in ss spear holds me still for him and his dps partner abom limb was way easier to counter but got nerfed… makes no sense

i guess if the enemy makes a go on you with high cd cds you need to rely on your healer as well while also pressing ros/ trade turtle high on biggest spear go so your heal doesnt have to overlap

Okay so I think it is time to stop arguing with you since you seem to lose control rather quickly and we wouldn’t want to raise your blood pressure further :slight_smile:

If we look at https://check-pvp.fr/ we see (similar to what I posted before) that warriors are the 2nd most played dps when it comes to both 3v3 and solo shuffle. This number has risen by quite a bit since the arms warrior buffs (suggesting people reroll due to FOTM). Not only have you started to compare other classes now but you talk about rogues as two specs instead of just one? Assa is indeed the strongest spec at the moment but I fail to see how you bring up sub rogues being above 2400 as a measurement of why assa is strong / broken?

I mean I hate to say it but you are not the center of the universe :slight_smile: No one cares what you think bud. You spamming XD and spamming walls of text on how streamers see warriors is just hilarious.

Seems like we hit your insecurities here :slight_smile: Again you haven’t played rogue so how would you know? :slight_smile: I am saying that there is a difference between having a permanent dmg reduction and needing to press stuff to reduce damage. I am claiming that having abilities such as bladestorm which makes you immune to CC is as braindead as it gets. Especially when a stun can go off but due to game engine it will break with bs.

I do think that having a setup and not rely on damage = more skill which is why I think current assa meta is really boring because I go through defensives and everything. I AM complaining about assa and I am complaining about everything which is “I can press cds in CC”, “null shroud” etc etc because I think the game becomes more boring and a PvE fiesta when that happens.

You talk about rogue kit like it is the most overloaded when warriors have one of the best kits in the game as well but according to all warrior mains they are like wet noodles and die if you stare at them…?

Having a permanent dmg reduction.
Able to drop banner to reduce CC oriented goes.
Abilities that allow them to keep doing damage while being unable to be CCd.

I mean this was obvious that when orcs were nerfed they would go to the 2nd best thing?

Haha this reminds me - how do you make Belver’s brain look like a pea? You blow it up and color it green :smiley:

And like I said, I AM NOT DENYING ROGUES ARE STRONG IDK HOW YOU FAIL TO SEE THAT BUT I ASSUME YOU ARE MENTALLY HANDICAPPED. My point is that warriors will be the ones at the top at the point of an assa nerf and I fail to see how it is bad for us to discuss these things?

I mean at this point you are just lying…? Go to check-pvp and look at solo and 3v3 2400+. Which dps spec is #2? :smiley: Solo would just be an even better indicator on why a spec is generally good or mongo dongo → because that’s where those specs thrive :slight_smile:

If you fail to realise things because you are too dumb it would be better to have a discussion about them rather than to call me stupid :thinking: You refuse to learn about rogues but yet you call them broken :thinking: I explain why I think warrs are overloaded and currently number 2 but that is incorrect because you make up your own statistics :thinking: Maybe it is time for you to focus more on school rather than to be angry on the forums?

jonathan frakes wrong 47 seconds felt rly good for my brain for 48 seconds XD

YOUR ARGUMENTS end here > WARRIOR POTATO BRAIN EASY RATING + check pvp shows #2 arms on solo shuffle and 3s. CC IMMUNITY=NO SKILL.

I go in detail on the other hand and show you more insight. I dont need to play rogue to understand how they work . Buddy everyone who wants get a bit higher knows atleast the basics win conditions of any class. There is no need to multiclass to know how a certain spec wins games I think your class must be braindead then , you have cloak makes you immune to magic cc +dmg + evasion= cant disarm :o

Most of melees have some kind of immunity, let it be bop. icebound or cloak, bubble, rogues can vanish, ferals are immune to fear, hunters have turtle and crit immunity, they also have trap that cant be dispelled blablabla. Unfortunately with the amount of cc certain specs have there must be a slight amount of counterplay and thus the immunities. Either leave it be or reduce amount off cc rogues have then let bs be disarmed etc etc. Warriors have decent kit I said 100times ? Not overloaded tho nor braindead as you make it to be which I dont agree with you .

The reason why everyone played orc is cuz it was the best vs most annoying comps rmp, jungle, ret/war monk/dh etc . Right now everyone rolled dwarf because of 1 class/spec xd. Banner is not a good ability, dies instantly to a resto druid healer the overall value requires an insane prediction to be made which is not worth a talent point. Abilities have to be reliable. Also I think pre-bladestorming a stun is a good prediction so why would it be braindead when you can stun 5 times in 100seconds xD While most classes 3 at best at a shorter duration.

If anything more braindead playstyle is doing hit and run while enemy cant press anything or has to use long cds just to catchup. Because it’s easier to control than to predict with reliable ability. The fact you complain about 6 sec window in which war has a chance to stop a setup is cringe, especially since bladestorm with unhinged is an essential part of the dmg rotation, if it wasnt for that everyone would insta counter every go with disarm/cc/mobility.
Your class can kidney>cheap/disarm run behind pillar reset go again 20sec dr timer on each go. Vanish/evasion/cloak lets reset the fight is also braindead playstyle according to your logic, in the end you pop evasion dk cant heal and you deal dmg. Same with cloak vs casters/

I THINK THE POINT YOU MISS TO UNDERSTAND THAT I DONT AGREE THAT WARRIORS WILL BE #2 IF THEY NERF ASSA. ARMS SPEC IS #2 POPULAR BUT ONCE THEY NERF ASSA WARRIOR COUNTERS WILL HAVE AN EASIER TIME AS WELL,IN GENERAL. Look at eu meta where warrior numbers are twice as low. Overall, even if they nerf assa more the numbers will be very even overall across servers.

Even according to your check pvp shows 53,assa 38 warriors and 36ferals>34dh>31 unholy. The numbers i counted on the ladders are nearly the same but also consider there are 0 fury warriors there while there are plenty several of sub rogues and some frost dks.
We have 1 choice while rogue can play 3, dk can have soon buffed frost as an option, druids have 3 viable specs. dh also will have an easier time when rogues are nerfed because assa eat them for breakfast.

I think my insight why why warriors are not and outlier of other melee classes. They sure are popular option but your argument is #2 most popular=second strongest xD.
I dont deny arms being second most represented spec I just say it is pretty equal with others while rogue as whole class nearly doubles the number of other melees. To sum up, your argument that #2 is popular is true as of now but you saying that warrior will be #2 strength wise is something i dont agree with and why I provided in the details :smiley: I mean you will see for yourself once meta progresses but your view on the game will be stuck at 1.800 mmr so that might give you the false sense of reality so yeah I guess no point of talking to you.

I mean the info is not even off if you manually count it you can see that but I suppose that’s too hard for you :wink:

Like I said, no reason to argue with you when you refuse any arguments that do not align with what you think. Arms is the 2nd most played melee spec in both 3v3 and solo shuffle so your argument doesn’t really make any sense that it is not.

So yeah I focus on arms being #2 best vs being #2 popular this whole time.

tbf assasination was and still is the strongest spec by a large margin

Now i got by 132k MS? Nerfs where? :smiley:

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told you bro ur if you manage to get hit by 160 nothing will change if u ignore all the setup to get crit by such dmg in the first place

i got hit 110k bolt where is justice? its a range ability that is spammable xD

You have to cast it at least? What is hard about pressing MS remind me? What made you think that instant skill should deal more dmg than a one that requires you to cast?

line it, reflect, it pummel it, or storm bolt it xD

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There is no justice and i literally predicted destro to be broken. :smiley:

I got hit by 147k bolt, it’s completely bonkers. :joy:

Oh and it’s not spammable. It costs Soul Shards.

no justice like zack snyder’s justice league aka snyder cut

now that was a masterpiece

Decided to undust my lock after playing it decade ago, somehow i got back to back 3 war loby, wasn’t the most pleasant experience :disappointed_relieved: rough way to learn how to deal with pressure.

Whaaaaat, but people were telling me lock is an unstoppable turret?! :open_mouth:

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