As a horde player, when was the last time you won a random BG or epic BG?

I can remember the last time I won one. Maybe 2 expansions ago, or 1 expansion ago I’m not sure. I remember the win though, somehow our team decided to use chat for coordination and nobody said “you’re talking in chat, no wonder we’re losing, cry more”

It was incredible, all the hard work and coordination got us the win by a whisker. It always feels like the alliance have a 50% haste buff and a 200% hp buff at all times lately. But I remember that win, it was a good day.

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Yesterday (i did not played today yet).

  • 4 win on evoker (out of 4) -
  • 7 win on shammy (out of 12)

But i don’t play epic bg, it’s the worst form of pvp (for me)

I don’t understand the horde players btw. For many years, every single horde player says we always losing bgs. Even before the game start they say “another lose”… wth?

Here is my stats (only random bg and a very few epic for the quest):

  • this month: 31 win / 25 lose = 55% win
  • last few years (lost my addon data at a point): 1780 win / 988 lose = 64% win

And i don’t hard carry games or anything like that, i joining random bg’s for fun. Sometimes i don’t even do objectives, etc.

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Today.

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naa get outta town there’s no way you actually won a BG as horde. Did you use merc mode?

I don’t believe you at all, every game since I came back has been a very quick and brutal loss. I can’t carry a team of 39 people. I’m just a warlock, I can’t even outlive a warrior training me. They heal way too much.

I can’t even use chat to say “LM!!” or “Stop fighting mid we need EFC!” without people getting offended and giving me hell for it.

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They win all the time

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Prove it… I win in Blitz regularly enough, funny though because that’s a mix of alliance and horde. totally random solo queues.

Random casuals the horde just can’t catch a break. No wins so far and it’s been almost 1 month

Indeed, since BGs started Horde have a better win ratio than alliance on most servers.

Let me doubt It.

Yesterday. I spammed around 20 epic bgs in a row and only lost 3 in a small group of 2-5 friends.

Nope, i don’t use merc (last time I joined as mercenary was in DF S1 first week to get honor gear fast)

You don’t have to believe me, i don’t really care. I just answered your question honestly.

I also said, i don’t play epic bg, only 10/15 man normal random bg. However I mostly join with a group of 2-3 friends to have fun or help them get honor gear on fresh alts, otherwise i queue Blitz instead.

I suggest you install “Reflex” and check out your win/loss ratio after a few weeks. You may be surprised (easier to remember when you lose games and forget about the wins)

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In wotlk I got so annoyed by losing so much on horde i decided to lvl my first alli. Only to discover that Alli loses just as much. Currently i’m enjoying bg’s on horde way more than on Alli. People are more social, talk more tacts before start and cry less when losing. Many times on horde we come back from being behind. When Alli is behind they just give up and start crying somewhere in a corner. So far for me the Horde bg experience has been great compared to mediocre experience on Alli side.

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Seems like you and the other guy saying he wins a lot have something in common. You have 2-5 friends who always play with you in random BG’s.

Do you how much of a difference that makes? Do you talk to them on discord too?

Try joining without friends like the majority of players. Just join alone

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I play alone sometimes, especially when i just join random bg to test talents, learn another spec/builds, etc. I don’t really feel much difference.

The real difference can be when you play. I usually play bgs after work, between 7 and 10 PM. In the weekends i feel we lose more (but not all games)

I played a lot alone in previous expansions on both sides and i had almost the same w/l ratio.

You can check out my win/loss on battlegrounds if u want

Horde: ~59% win

Alliance: ~62% win (didn’t played this toon for a long time)

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Informative,

Well I play during the day between 10am and 4pm on and off between work. Sometimes I play later at night after 10pm to about 1am.

I’m mainly playing epic BG’s because they always pop first. (not anymore I only play blitz now)

and I’m not even joking, every game since I came back to wow a month ago has been a loss and a pretty bad one at that.

It’s exhausting losing so much, and then having your own team give you headache when you’re just trying to give advice on how to actually play the BG.

Considering I’m currently on a 9 game loss streak on my alliance char just tonight it sure seems to me like horde wins a whole lot.

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I play alliance and lose about 20% of the time in randoms and about 45% of the time in epics, but my brain is generally off in epics.

The side with the premade wins.

If no premades, the side with more gear wins.

If both same gear, the side with less Italians wins.

Healing seems harder to carry on. You cannot deadlift 9 players with 4m hp as a healer.

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I won a couple of epic BGs this week on my Orc Monk. I don’t really like to zerg though, I usually just contest some flags for fun and disrupt sidr objectives. In big battles everything is laggy and I don’t feel like I can control the outcome, so I avoid them. This way I also always have fun usually regardless of outcome

I alway win more than loses as alliance, with or without premades.

No problems winning without friends either. I win so much in epic bgs because I coordinate my team with strategy calls, not because of the one or two companions I bring along that only make up 5-10% of the team in an epic bg. Whether you have an epic bg where you have yourself, 1 friend and 38 randoms, or just yourself and 39 randoms hardly makes a difference.

The truth is most players have a very poor understanding of which objectives actually matter in epic bgs. You see them fighting at points with no strategic importance, such as in front of the alliance keep in isle of conquest, while glaives are destroying their gate within minutes and nobody stops them. Tell them clearly what needs to be done and you might be able to reach a critical mass of players who follow you and take the objective that matters.

Same. Blitz is just the superior version of random bg. MMR ensures you get players on your level. The rulesets, capture times, and point formulas in blitz are also better than the classic version of each map. If I have a group of more than 2, I prefer epic bgs over random bgs, as random bgs are too easy to win in a group of 3-5.

What strategy calls are you making that doesn’t get you horrible responses in chat for the rest of the game?

Say you’re in Wintergrasp as horde. What’s your first strategy call that get’s you so many wins?