As title says £39.99 for an expansion with mixed content

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Gw2 expansions are also alot smaller with alot less content.

They bring 0 new dungeons, they generally bring 6 raid bosses a expansion as there isnt a actual raid, uphold only 1 game mode for pvp, and refresh non of their content.

Their content drops tend to be once a year also over WoWs 4 month cycles.

So tbh. I dont think you can use gw2 as a representative point here given the sheer fact their expansions cost less to make in comparison due to how much less they do.

Also i need to add.

Gw2 still require u to buy every expansion individually or pay for the bulk all in 1, which is far more expensive. So entry fee for a new player isnt 26 pounds.

While in WoW pay once get all.

I think your out of context comparisons are more disgusting then the prices, gw2 you pay for what you get.

0 content.

Your buying the OP new speccs, thsts the sale there, however everyone 2 expsnsions later still abandoning all new content and sitting in HoT lol

You will find me on gw2 forums about 4 months ago declaring my quitting of the game and pretty much every player who replied told me to come to WoW, its better value to WoW.

Amazing how, the game ur saying does so much better, its players advocate that WoWs just outright better.

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I am guessing by your take on this expansion that you did not play wow pre-legion. Nor have you played any of the classic adaptations of the game either.
With DF we have gone back to the very roots of World of Warcraft. Like in vanilla-Wrath after reaching max you only had rep farming to do and getting your professions to max in the first weeks (only counting for what people have said the game was like)
Dragonflight has gone back to the roots because for the previous 4 years it’s what we have begged Blizzard to do. We have endlessly hated on the borrowed power system and any other content that was not in the core game. Blizzard is now being true to what people want and I must admit that the timegating on some content is rather annoying I also want to take things slow than to have unlocked everything in day 1.

Profession knowledge is easy to come by and if you have built correctly you should by now have unlocked a complete line. With profession treasures, the masters, the Darkmoon quests and just from crafting as well as the points you can buy from the vendor in Valdrakken and the profession quests you can do in Valdrakken as well.

Not everyone are hardcore gamers that played Spyro back in the day and for us Dragonriding is fun. I personally really enjoy Dragonriding. And instantly wanted it for the entirety of Azeroth when flying from Stormwind to the Darkmoon portal felt boring and unappealing.

I give you that the crafting order system is broken. But I think it comes down to people not using it because the things they want made crafters simply can’t make yet. As for me personally I am inscription and most of the items people want made are unlocked in renown 25+ with some faction.
I might have done something wrong if it’s possible to be renown 25 already but I honestly believe that when we get further into the expansion and get to unlock the recipes there will be more action on the crafting order system.

Currently I am having a blast with premade groups for Obsidian Key farming. With the 10% rep buff from Darkmoon faire you can make some nice rep farming.

Not everything has to be a boring “oh the only thing I can do is M0 how boring” there are legit other things you can do it just try and have some fun without the need of being a hardcore edgelord

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It is pretty weird logic.

But tbh its no different to the people who pay £20-£30 a month for limitless cinema ticket cards, and tbh they pay the same price as a expansion ontop every viewing if they want popcorn and drinks that they dont have to sneak into the screen room

Your entertainment u generally budget in, and tbh i was paying far more in the days of going to the cinema then i ever have done in WoW.

They never will, because they know it doesnt exist there are cheaper games, but anyone whos gonna try argue ESO GW2 Rift EQ2 and EQ1 deliever more content then WoW is lying through their teeth.

You get what you pay for, theres a reason their cheaper and its never because the content output is equal. As someone whos moved around alot and tried alot, they just dont output any content lol. Its why we always end up back in WoW.

The only competing game is ffxiv and even then its actual player progression content is far less then WoW. Ffxiv generally double down on its story and activities such as housing as content.

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What in the mmorpg genre?.

I play eso, gw2 and have played eq1 eq2 and rift and nothing they “free launch” id consider contrnt.

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These gamss u mention, are developped in 1 direction they deliever 1 type of content and progress that type of content. Mmorpgs dont work this way they expand several types of content continously.

Which is why your comparison is unfair.

Maybe you play WoW but dont engage with raids or m+. So ur looking at its content from a lense of only open world content.

Or maybe you only do m+ and dont do open world content or raids.

The content will naturally be alot smaller, because its development is split among several end games.

Its value depends on how many hours a week you play for, thats the thing. So its value to me snd you will be different.

Gta aint designing raid bosses

Eve isnt designing dungeons.

Diablo aint developing pvp and raids.

Your comparing games which develope in one path to a game that developes multiple. Mmorpgs are a jack of all trades. These games you mention may make more content you engage with, but they dont make more content overall.

When you break down.

Open world

Reputations

Proffessions

Dungeons + additional difficulties.

Raids + difficulties + mythic phases.

Mounts

Achievements.

Toys / pets.

Lands / art.

Cosmetics / transmog.

Loot systems

Story.

New classes.

New races

PvP.

Warmode.

Theres just more in all of these content wise. Then what these games are delievering its just the entirity of gta is dedicated to 1 playstyle. Same with skyrim, same with elden ring, same with diablo 3, same with no man sky.

No maybe you dont engsge with 3/4s of the systems that maybe the case, but you cannot deny it as content just because you dont personally do it.

WoW makes more content. Its just there are players who ignore parts of the game and then screech that the content dont exist, when it does.

Gta in 2 years gave capture the flag and 4 new guns. Their largest out churn of content was 2017 and even then it was minor things realistically added.

Eve most of its updates are store deals and new stuff on the store.

Diablos is just turning on and off the next seasonal events snd moving things in which catagory they are in.

This sounds more like “these games add more content which i personally want” rather then “these games create larger quantities of contrnt”

WoWs value depends on how many hours u play entirely. If yoyr playing 4 hours a week its obviously not high value as a example.

That doesnt mean the game should be cheaper this silly notion of “make less money but retain the same quantity of content” dont work, the content will drop with its profits as they will fire devs to levy out of the losses.

The games model is absolutely fine. Its just theres alot of people who sit in the game. Only doing 3% of the games content screeching their aint enough content snd wondering why theyre met with a echo of telling em theyre wrong.

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Everyone elses game going to 70 dollars/euros with their 10 hour campaigns.

Some pleb on this forum that can’t even write “should have” complaining about feature that he apparently doesn’t even understand (of course there are barely any orders in the first week).

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Let’s defend a bad practice because everybody does it. While we are at it let’s make it 80 dollars next month because “inflation” and maybe 90 bucks after that because “gas prices”. Imagine defending a 25% increase in price as a consumer, that is backed by nothing, besides the previous expansion having bad revenue. When it’s 70 bucks for 10 hour campaigns, most people grab the torches against the developer. I feel like some people here just like to play the devils advocate to piss other people off.

I understand your point of view. After playing other MMOS I also enjoy more casual stuff, but I feel like the casual stuff isn’t really as good as it could be. I remember when I used to spend a lot of time doing loremaster stuff, but all of it was up until cata. Afterwards the questing somehow lost it’s magic completely. It would benefit you to try a critically acclaimed free trial cough. I just jump from game to game when there is content and it cured me from the mindset that WoW is THE MMO completely.

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To be honest, for what we have now, I think it’s worth the price tag. You’ve got the leveling experience, the story, open world PvE, entry level instanced PvE, instanced PvP and then on top of those, you have the dragonriding system (which they copied from GW2, not Sonic).

That’s all great, in fairness. There’s no power maguffin other than level and gear keeping you from swapping to alts. Even swapping specs is easier for some as we’re not that deep into being able to min-max stats just yet. So there’s a lot to do on multiple characters and set-ups.

In the open world, we’ve also gotten the map events (also taken from GW2… and other games). Sure, the big prize is only once a week but there’s a lot still there to do too! Rares need slaying daily and you still gotta collect gear on the way up through Heroics.

Certain reps can be blasted to get yourself set up early, like the Cobalt rings.

With our beginning close-to BiS gear, I’d also suggest taking a look back at BFA dungeons and raids that will now become better soloable.

So yeah, there’s a lot to do and a lot that’ll be available to do soon as well. Its all about pacing out so people are not rushed to begin with.

Of course, then there’s the subscription fee that brings this all toppling to the ground since other games like GW2 actually give you the same or better content for a one off purchase.

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Except there was no list of reasons.

I explained to you the difference between game genres and why you cant just straight compare the way ur attempting to apply.

I can go anywhere and say Elden Ring has more story / solo content then WoW, but i could get up and say WoW has more raid content then elden ring and that elden ring isnt worth its price tag because WoW does more.

Your arguments are incredibly bias realistically and your not willing to accept such

If your going to try and compare, atleast keep it relevant.

Such as FFXIV v WoW.

Clearly you just dont like the facts realistically, WoW developes alot of different content so its easy to pick out one specific type of content and start saying it falls down.

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I did not know there were people who bought the lowest price bundle.

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What? Now im a fan of guild wars 2, i came here from guild wars 2, its one of favorite mmorpgs, however to consider it close to WoW in anything beyond open world where its a clear winner this has to be a joke right?

Arena net, is run by litterally 3 developers and a few programmers. The company is a empty shell, they had to fire 3/4s of the studio to survive as they almost had to shut the game down in PoF.

It got saved bexause ncsoft came in and saved their asses in the end.

You reliese in 3 gw2 expansions, the game has less raid bosses, less dungeon bosses, Less dungeons, less transmogs, less mounts, less achievements, less end game systems and less support.

Then WoWs worst expansion right?

Pretty cleverly missed out gw2 charge additional money for all story past the inital story campaign among several other things tho.

Games £26 + 2x £20 story campaigns.

Its funny tho.

On gw2s forum they only wish GW2 was run like WoW, they are begging for WoW systems there continously lol while your here trying to say these are equal.

Gw2 has a great open world.

But just like everyone who plays it, it ends there, theres no dungeons, no mythic+, a handful of raid boss3s per expansion, and yes bosses, they dont develope actual raids like WoW their platform bosses.

WoW may fall down in world content comparitively. But it sky rockets above in every other catagory. Even pvp ironically even tho gw2 was susposed to be a pvp game

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So what is it you want in response to your statement?

Answer that question, don’t ignore it.

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I expect the sale next month.

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Lol GTA V funds itself by selling shark cards, they aren´t exactly cheap. And while they do release content patches, they have done absolutely nothing against the modders, freemode was unplayable last time I was online. Modders have gone so far as to block the ingame report function, follow people into closed sessions, kicking them off the internet- your IP is visible for everyone on the website… At least on wow if you encounter someone toxic, you can block and move on. No one can kill your internet and prevent you from playing.

No Man´s sky, yeah they do free upgrades, otherwise it be dead by now because there just isn´t much to do. No challenges. It´s just fly around and visit the same looking planets again and again, no point in walking around more than 20 meters because all there is are the same 5 sets of asset sets reused over and over again. Gets old really fast.

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I’m enjoying it.

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Actualy it is games fault. Game should pace you not yourself.