Assa Afflock needs to go

The concept of match-up exists. For example, since Assa Affli is the topic, the comp has a rather easy time vs BM UH, but gets destroyed by any competent DH Balance team.

That’s because classes and comps have strengths and weaknesses, and so you should never have 50% winrate into everything whatever you play. Else, why have classes and specs ? If you want that sort of “balance”, you need to find a game with one unique class and gearset so that every single player is identical. Then, at even skill, you’ll have your 50% winrate everywhere.

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bro you are a perma duelist before this disgustingly broken comp same as the other assa rogues and palas playing this comp. all glad/duelist and all of a sudden play this brocken comp they are top ladder. at least admit your comp is completely busted. you are literally keyboard turning bro

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Get obliterated by legendary jungle bro

I dont think assa affli is broken. MM is and I agree with the BG plebs :clown_face:

ah thats what i though ty.

didnt know about that interesting.

thanks for the info

my ele mate doesnt use it. I think rshamans should use it against assa but not 100% sure.

should dh boomy go assa too?

The match-up is heavily one sided. Even though some people around here manage to lose it at times and then spend the next 10 hours complaining about Assa Affli cough, the reality is that you can actually kill all 3 targets, even the healer. You basically attack whoever is the most vulnerable at any given time, and slowly but surely the Cyclones paired with unkitable 150k ST DPS batman will wear someone down. Assa Affli relies on high constant pressure to win, so it doesn’t do good into most Balance + melee comp (DH, WW or Outlaw) because there is so much single target damage going on and so much CC that the Assa Affli team is usually not able to triple DoT properly, is forced to play too defensive, and just loses due to being unable to put out any real pressure. Plus, with the lack of damage caused by Cyclones + some monkey melee jumping around dealing unhealable damage the DH Boomy healer usually has extra time to simply press dispel without real consequences, so you deny the Assa Affli more and more because they fall behind and behind in damage, and basically need to start over everytime they want to have a go (which makes it easy, or easier, to deny).

Into good DH Boomy teams that don’t try to make useless plays such as using Glimpse and Blur like a complete idiot to pre things when you can just trade normally, overabusing Cyclone at the expense of damage, or just standing mid when you can stay far and win as the healer, Assa Affli loses almost everytime.

Now, what exactly you should do as the DH Boomy to optimize the winrate, I wouldn’t know.

sounds good, i remember that for the next time i play dh/boomy :slight_smile:

just nerf the tankiness from affli lock

assa is really squischy and can be 100-0 in a stun chain

yes shadowdance is really annoying and assa dont need stuff like this, but will be removed in TWW anyway

the most annoying thing about this comp is just the garrote and warlocks selfheal + the fact that he can dark pact while he is stunned

i dont like to face this comp, but i experienced at 2.2+ that retri x comps are more cringe to play against

against affli rogue, u guys should do fake go´s on warlock, cc him as much as possible, and then do a cc on the heal and stun the rogue, he will use most likely trinket into evasion and can die in the next go

dont trinket the first cheap shot on your burst dps, otherwise u can die in a smokebomb kidney, and if u should survive the enemy team getting too much momentum because your healer have to run into the smokebomb, and can be feared and garrote silence by the rogue.

affli warlock is cringe guys and most likely m+ gameplay , but trust me batman ret is even more cringe or dk batman

its most likely the only way

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Thats what annoying me about WoW the most.
I dont like this waiting for the next patch situation, waiting for the next expansion. And when the next patch comes it comes with its own problems so then we wait yet another patch.
There obvious problems and obvious solutions.
Settle them on next reset.
What is this.

nobody likes it, but u have to understand blizz, they only want to invest 2% from the income into the game, so “big changes” cant be made really often

it´s blizz designe philosophy around m+ if they remove Shadowdance from rogue, they have to make other changes, otherwise nobody will play it anymore, or will fall behind the meta, so they have to invest time, to find the best solution, and the counter change to it

i think this is also the reason why cyclone is untouched, if u nerf cyclone, u have to counterbalance the dmg and survivability, this cost blizz resources = money and we are also close at the end of dragonflight

so they rather selling the class changes packages for the next expansion, to make players believe that everything will getting better

I haven’t play for two weeks, and first session on 2300mmr from 30 games 80% were assa rmp and assa-affli matchups :smiling_face_with_tear:

The comp is absolutely disgusting. Rogues and Locks need a huge nerf.

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Don’t expect any further class tuning

All Blizzard cared about was nerfing DH 17 times in a row

Apparently no other class needs nerfs for any reason

Well, you got your DH nerfs, so now have fun with an alternative evil

So enjoy 200k dps affli and assa till end of season =)

Getting silenced 3 times in a row and stunned 3 times in a row is completely fair, so is being a melee caster that heals as much as his healer =)

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well u still see allot of dh/ret dk/dh

it looks like the current meta is

sp/affli league of legends towers
some rmps
dh/dk ret
affli assa
sometimes fmp
thats it

and idk what is going on with fire mage ignite currently, dk russian burst, affli/assa sustain

seems like these nerfs didnt just hit dhs but also you personally

id rather face a lock here and there than 9/10 games dh as in last season

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Oh I don’t care personally

I argued with people who wanted core talents from DH removed in crybaby threads

I have no problem with a DMG and passive tankiness nerf, simply means I have to play better

It’s completely different if they take away something like Glimpse or Blood Moon and half my situations become unplayable

To me it’s just funny how some classes are literally permanently under the radar with how obnoxious they are

Waiting 1-2 month for nerfing a spec you deem extremely bad design and overpowered? Let’s try waiting for years instead :joy:

I’m kinda just spamming alts for fun lately having a blast on priest and windwalker, some MM hunter from time to time

skill issue

Do you really think that the DH nerf wasn’t justified? Yes, it’s disappointing that Assa and Affli didn’t receive any nerfs but how does make the nerf to DH unjustified? The only change which I strongly disagree with in the latest patch notes was the rdruid buff.

Where did you read the word “unjustified”?

As I said I literally don’t care about these nerfs, I just have to play a little better and they don’t affect me, but they do affect the fotm rerollers, especially the ones who aren’t good at surviving

DH nerfs are fine

But how about Blizzard actually nerfs some other problematic specs for once

I wouldn’t be surprised if Mages had 7 blinks next expansion, Ele got a 4th knockback and 4th root, and they gave 2 vanish stacks to all rogue specs

nobody would bat an eye

there’s a lot of absolutely ridiculous design out there that isn’t limited to the DH class

Also yes, Resto Druid is GOD tier now. Literally best class in the entire game

The most toxic healer spec ever made