Assassination spec for PVP feels so so weak. Just me?

Classes Rogue
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Hey guys,

So, I am not the best rogue but I’m okay, better than average. Much prefer 1 on 1s and BGs to Arena.

I am getting the impression that assassination is just so poor for PVP, lacks the burst dmg. I often open with Ambush (as I’m deathdealer) > cheap > garrote > shiv > rupture > vanish

Then I’ll ambush again, apply death mark and then use evasion, cloak, kick, gouge and kidney when necessary for interrupts and to try and assert control over my opponent.

It’s at this point where things usually all go wrong and I get wtf 2 shotted or just out healed. I keep bleeds up, spam mutilate (which does so little dmg) and envenom when at full combo points. Healers just out last me, demon hunters just stun me and two shot me with their dragon a** breath, paladins just seem impossible and don’t even get me started on warlocks, druids and disc priests. It feels like most classes can just so easily out heal my dmg whilst also inflicting more dmg than me. I actually feel like I have all the tools to out manoeuvre my opponents particularly with shadowstep which is a game changer vs mages and hunters but my dmg output is just pathetic.

The only classes I have much luck with are Hunters, mages (if I get the jump) and depressingly other rogues. My PVP item lvl is 633 so not bad gear wise either.

It feels to me as if Assassination is a PVE spec - lots of DOTS, slice and dice etc

Am I being OTT or can others relate? It seems most top rogues atm are playing outlaw? Or perhaps rogues are no longer ganking machines but more useful for CC control?

Any classes which aren’t predominantly healers, I’ll use crippling and deadly poison and vs healers crippling / wound. If I haven’t got deathmark ready to use, most of the time I won’t even bother. Also feel the improved garrote and 6 second silence is wasted as with Deathdealer, it encourages the rogue to open with Ambush.

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U have still low gear at this phase of the season. Be patient. :slightly_smiling_face: Everyone is basically full geared right now, u have to catch up. Mastery increases poison dmg, stack it. You have too much crit I think. Also, seems like you don’t play 4 set, don’t have any enchants, embellishments. Work on that. Dmg output will come with this.

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Thank you! Very helpful. Yea, my gear and silly choices (stacking crit) seems to be the issue. Like I say, I am not the best rogue but I think I’m alright. Yes, I need one more piece for 4 set but surely I wouldn’t wear that in PVP right as that doesn’t stack to 639 like glad gear. I also have no idea how enchants or embellishments work. I came back after not playing since vanilla > TBC and pretty much just play by myself.

I have 70,000 gold, is this enough to get any enchants / embellishments on the glad gear?

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In this video, there should be informations you need for crafted gear with embellishments and 4 set. If you buy piece of PvP gear, you can turn your head, chest etc into 4set while still having it scaled to 639 for PvP. Look up Catalyst location in TWW. Doesn’t cost anything.

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Assa rogue is thematically very squishy, as per usual. Even with 2 vanishes we’re still a kill target in the eyes of alot of players, but assa rogue usually pumps damage on multiple targets and is a solid dps into melee heavy lobbies so you should be able to comfortably swing match ups. You can kinda smoke bomb your way to 2.1 by just throwing kidneys on the weakest player every match up.

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They certainly can’t gank like they used to, rogue openers used to be terrifying for anyone, now they aren’t so bad.