At this point they are straight up trolling us

The head of the game ( ion hazzicostus ) just said few days ago in an interview that we dont like making class changes after the release cause it messes with people charaacter progression , which btw is something we have been saying since god knows when bfa ?

and then the very next few days you announce another stupid Class balancing nerfing directly m+ meta specs ? like seriously what is this ??

i cant keep a straight face anymore i legit cant it feels like they are just mocking us and having a good Mugsy laugh in the office while they’re at it … it feels discusting

stop nerfing stop buffing thats for PRE PATCH … Once you release its done over we play what ever you release till the end of that tier Broken or balanced .

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I’d prefer the game to go the other way and be more aggressively balanced. If the community wasn’t so picky about who they invite to keys, then it wouldn’t matter so much, but since they are, balancing is an important tool to break meta comps from dominating.

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What, are you nuts. Thats terrible. balancing is not class changes. this was everyone biggest gripe in previous expansions, that they did not address balancing issues once release, and you were stuck with nothing for months. you had to play these broken specs. I love class balancing.

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yes but if you pay attention to Leaven comment she mentions something important which they dont do … which is aggressive class balancing its so stupid they cant choose a damn directon

they need to do one of the following two things and they cannot stay in the middle i repeat they cannot find a middle ground !

Route 1 : Extreme class balancing , what i mean by that is almost every week hell even every day ! daily class balancing

Route 2 : you NEVER NEVER EVER and i mean NEVER not even +1% buff or -1% nerf to any class after release .

thats it those are the only 2 options you can choose if you try to stay in between that you are dumb which is exactly what blizzard has been doing for the past 10 years or so , they just randomly nerf some classes 2-3 months in or buff some classes and it dosnt rly change anything its just pointless …

all these changes they just made ! its gonna change nothing literally nothing the most pointless action ever taken

Yeah, good idea to deal in extremes…if history shows us anything then you never choose either extreme.
Bi-weekly class balancing (DF S1) was the most balanced season in all of WoWs history.

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Season 1 of DF was absolutely awful for like half the season.

Healing on a druid was faceroll even if you didn’t know how they worked and trying to heal the same encounters on a holy priest was sweatlord™ compared to resto druid.

Balance changes are not class changes.

For different reasons. Overtuned dungeons, thundering affix, new talent tree.
Once Blizzard started with the bi-weekly updates it got better fast.

Comparing the best m+ healer in history to the worst healer in WoW to make your point.
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankings/season-df-1/all/world/leaderboards-strict#role=healer:mode=unique:minMythicLevel=25:maxMythicLevel=99:chartMode=by-class
4 different healer specs in the highest keys.

No, it took them half the season to get holy priest to a decently playable level when compared to how easy it was on resto druid.

Our set was bugged the entire season as well, it never got fixed.

Spec to disc and you were meta.

Jokes aside: it was obvious that holy priest would be bad after the warcrimes they commited during Shadowlands s3 and 4.

Doesnt change the fact that it was the most balanced season since Legion s1. 4/6 healers were timing the highest keys.

“lol just reroll 4head”

No. Their tuning is always horrible.

One week I was just flooring on my paladin as prot. Then they buffed it and you just went “lol, you no hurt me anymore” to mobs and it became meta instantly.

They never fix tuning progressively, it’s always either swing like hell and something becomes OP over night or doing pointless buffs that doesn’t help the specs(lol, the renew buffs) and it’s dumb. There’s no stability. Season 1 of SL - holy priest in the gutter. Season 3, OP as hell because of the affix coupled with kyrian ability.

DF season 1 was terrible , they kept nerfing prot warrior for no reason while buffing prot paladin while it being already the better tank due to infinite tank busters it was the only tank that could survive keys specially higher echelon keys

im down for weekly class balances , i dont mind them if they continue on ! and not in 1 direction constantly , but thats never gonna happen

so we go with option 2 which is never change anything ! if your class sucks well to bad lifes not fair … it is what it is

staying in the middle and making lame changes like this that acomplish nothing is the stupidest thing you can do . i honestly find it amazing how blizzard is capable of finding the absolute worst way of approaching almost near anything its like a talent but a talent in being bad at something you know ? like someones rly good at soccer but then someones so bad to a point where you think like being this bad requires speciall talent

and they have been doing this for years … and for years the feed back is always negative yet they continue ! we dont like mid patch random nerfs stop em … or make them consistently so we dont end up in the dirt

Strong disagree.

I think they dont do enough tuning patches. We got 2 patches so far this season. We should get one per week. MINIMUM.

They do it to prevent a stale meta. Which is worse than anything in M+. And as I said, they dont do enough. CLEARLY.

If you happen to be a FOTM reroller… then… tough luck. I have absolutely ZERO empathy for you. Deal with it.

I would have preferred to see them Buff more classes than nerf a few.

Buffs = more fun for everyone.
Nerfs = less fun for a few.

Also, what’s the harm in giving people a little bit more of a push.

see this is the problem YOU my friend YOU are the problem you have 0 knowledge of how the game works …

This change they just did ! changes nothing … absolutely nothing DK is a complete mandatory spec in m+ 3% nerf isnt gonna change anything at all , hunter will remain dominant nothing will change disc will still suck no one will play witha disc and as for arcane mage it was already not that amazing outside of world top 10 keys and it will continue to do bad in pugs even more after the nerfs …

they just achieved nothing and you think that somehow they made an impact with that change :smiley: its honestly funny how 1 group of clueless people convinced another group of clueless people somethiing was done , its like when the government does something and the 9-5 normies think its gonna have an impact

you see this is the problem you are having an opinion on something that you are completely clueless about , its like someone who drives a truck goes to a brain surgery seminar and starts making statements about how they should drill the skull … brahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh show this guy the door

no im not a fotm reroller i dont reroll at all i have like 10 different classes and i play them all i just dont understand the point of these stupid changes they make 0 sense

its like when they nerfed the Astral antenna trinket , everyones reacttion ( the one who do understand how the game works not you ) was like whats the point of this ? what is this gonna change exactly ? astral antenna remains the best trinket almost for everyone by far regardless of this

Exactly. That’s what I said. These changes are nowhere near enough. We need things like these EVERY WEEK. Not twice in a season.

If they would have done a -3% damage to DK every week for 8 weeks… then it would have been a different story. RIGHT?

Define “best” please. 1% better? 10% better? Because there is a huge difference there.

10% better means I will be farming the raid every week until I get it. A 1% improvement… meh… maybe il pass half the time. I can survive with a Brood Sack instead.

yeah but they dont … thats the problem i mentioned above they dont do this which is just moronic !

like i said they need to choose a road at a crossroad instead of just waiting there endlessly praying that things will workout magically .

they need to either make changes EVERY SINGLE WEEK ! if not days i would rather days tho everyday but weeks will do and constantly buff and nerf classes to make a meta impossible to form ! which is exactly what i would have loved them to do !

but knowing how lazy blizzard devs are we can safely say that will never happen which leaves us with option number two which is :

NEVER Make changes ! its stupid ppl have been grindin vault after vault raid after raid and then suddenly you just make some half measure stupid class balacing 2 months into the season that changes nothing and now they are like 4 steps back to weeks ago its pointless its just dumb ! and the best part is they didnt even achieve the goal of breaking a stale meta they didnt !

the meta classes remain meta regardless of these changes so ??? WTF did you accomplish here exactly ?

Yep, no thx.

Yeah so… what you are saying is:

Blizzard slacks big time. So the next best thing is for them to slack even MORE?

I dont think its the “next better solution” as you claim it to be. Its a WORSE solution.

I mean look at your face it was never straight to begin with

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