Placebo nerfs. Ever heard of them? They don’t want to shake up the meta. So they do some nerfs that change absolutely nothing. MAYBE it’s ele > arcane now.
They do Placebo nerfs all the time. Since s2 dragonflight to be exact. And before s1 dragonflight.
So…they enforce the meta by not (over)buffing some meta contenders and by placebo nerfing the meta.
I bet you would be surprised by the fact that politicians know what they are doing.
It’s the exact same with game devs.
it was already ELE instead of mage it was ELE instead of anything , ELE is hard locked DK is hard locked all the mdi time trials are done by ELE its by far the most broken spec specially with good procs nice info there btw shows how clueles you are …
comparing 200iq manipulative extremely smart politians who master the art of control on a global scale to low iq video game developers specially the ones that are also lazy on top ( like blizzard ) is the dumbest comparison i have ever seen in my life . wow forums are something else man im discovering new entities
It wasn’t, lol. It was fdk + bm hunter hard locked. Last spot was arcane, ele and havoc.
Maybe run some high keys before you talk.
And yet every game dev is smarter than you and makes more money. They had to study game development.
Yet you are here wondering why there are no real balance patches when I explained it to you. In detail.
You are hilarious, throwing a tantrum the moment you get hit with facts.
Edit: Walkingdrip here. Swapped characters to my main.
i was running high keys when you were running 10 weeklies this season 
in the right hand and the right group it was always ele , petkosham who i personally played with and i dont consider him a good player was timing 18s first week that was clear enough on how good ele was in the right hand … even the current MDI time trials are all done by ele ( all of them before these nerfs )
you dont know my income you dont know anything about me
looks like they failed horribly
no you didnt explain anything you threw a bunch of random words like Placebo nerfs which i dont even know what the hell does that even mean … then you mentioned that maybe its this instead of that which is again incorrect its the same thing as before and you will see once these go live so im not sure what ur talking about here … but ok
Started late and I am currently gearing up 2 alts. You are stuck at 3,5k while I am 8 points below 3,5k. Stopped pushing with my dh 
Want me to send you a screenshot where I was playing with fauni, critcake, vickman, drjay, wolfdisco or wildi? You aren’t special
The way you write and the things you write directly reflect your intelligence. Just letting you know.
Are you a game dev to judge that? The fact that wow is still alive and well after 20 years speaks against your…claim.
This is not an explanation how game devs balance a game?
„A placebo nerf is the situation in video games in which a character or element is perceived as weakened, although no actual, significant change (nerf) has taken place.“
Here is the definition of a placebo nerf. A 3% nerfs is not significant, so all of the nerf were placebo.
The fact that you don’t know the word placebo is…interesting.
okay so you wrote that entire bs Essay along with your gaslighting about how late you started or im hardstuck ( last key i ran was like 5 weeks ago or something but aparantly i have been trying since day 1 nonestop ) that i wont even bother to mention or dig into considering how dimm you are to LITERALLY prove my point right?
you just proved my point they made a change in which changed nothing , hence proves the level of stupidity they run this game at , all they ended up doing was regressing ppls character progression by like 2 weeks or so in hope of maybe creating some sort of mist or delusion that these classes are no longer meta ? is that all ? thats your end game here in this arguement that i just proved your point but im still dumb enough to reply and explain the placebo effect as if this is some kind of clinical trial about curing cancer …
if internet is brainrot 101 , Wow forumers are brainrot 202
And when did I argue against you?
This is me just explaining it.
This is you.
This is me explaining how they know what they are doing.
Don’t lie. Never did I mention anything about „the nerfs will change something“. Never.
We are literally agreeing that the nerfs do nothing. I explained to you why they do Placebo nerfs and explained you what Placebo nerfs are.
So what is your problem?
I mean, this is exactly the reason that those specs went unerfed for 2 months now.
Now that HoF is closed and the serious progression is over, they start with some small balance changes.
They nerf the few top raid specs, by a small amount that will still keep them meta, but not far ahead of the others.
LOL, sure dude.
my problem is that its a pointless exercise it accomplishes nothing it reaches no goal we have both agreed upon that base on previous comments fully .
you just did something that resulted in nothing ! GJ if they were really trying to change the meta they would have to target prot warr which brings buff and shaman which again brings buff i had a post about how problematic buffs are before you can read it if you want , but what did they do instead ? pulled up warcraft logs in 1 tab went to 99percentile targeted the top 4 on that list then opened simcraft sheet and saw somewhat of an alignment and then called it a day … HEYYYYYY WHEEEEEEEE we did some work today amazing look look we worked now pay us .
if i could pull up a list of how many of these failure to reach goal changes they made over years and years throughout multiple expansins it would become a big archive …
and then there is you the guy who is down so bad that simps for wow devs that are clearly having sushi and sunbathin in cali beaches instead of working on the job they applied to and make some propper changes that would bring new flavor to the game
Atleast I am educated enough to not arrogantly backseat other educated peoples work when I have no clue the topic.
If you are so knowledgeable do your due diligence and apply to blizzard and rescue WoW with your glorious ideas.
There are smarter people than you and me out there. It’s in your best interest to shut up and listen when they talk
Why do you think blizzard only allows interviews with known content creators and high ranked players? Said players and creators know their stuff and don’t ask stupid questions and demand stupid things.
No balancing during the season is top 5 most stupid take a WoW player has ever demanded. Just letting you know.
im going to remind you that Ion, is a player first.
and he is actioning TRUE change …
the arms race with addons was too much. i support every action with addons and classes so far.
a prune of class design was needed.
my shammy has like 3 action bars of totems and spells.
of course they can IMPROVE, but let them cook, wait till beta
id probably be charged with manslaughter or murder within the first week of working there with those people or end myself , imagine working next to the guy who goes on an interview and says we hear you folks that post launch class nerfs are not fun and we aint doing em anymore and then they do it 2 days later yeah that sounds rllly rlly fun wheres the portal application im excited …
i didnt ask for it ! i said if you cant do your damn job which obvioulsy they cant ! ( incase if your wondering is making consistent class balancing on a weekly basis to ensure a fair and none meta environment ) then take the alternative … and leave us alone
this part of your comment makes sense and i fully agree !
this part how ever sounds more like a joke or sarcasm than anything else
what i mean was he isnt just some exec thats doing changes for the sake of it.
he understand the game far better than most
im pretty sure hes just recruiting devs and doing random interviews with content creators and nothing else … i would bet 2 ethereums the last time this dude loged into hes account (if he even has any none dev account) was 10-15 years ago
base on those interviews if you listen to every question they ask him he usually looks extremely confused and has no idea what to answer and just says some random mambo jumbo to make it none akward rather then adressing the question properly
i may be corrected here, but doesnt he play a warlock ?
If you go to raider.io–timed runs leaderboard–15 and higher keys.
You will find the picture of a perfectly balanced game.
drops hes character link armory rio anything
Exactly, if anything the game need more frequent class balancing. Cant go for months with nothing changing if there is clear outliers, especially if its heals or tanks, there is abundance of dps but if healer balance is bad we have people complain they dont get keys or ques are long for shuffle etc.
The balance patches have either been nonexistent or nonsensical like now there is still no nerf on voidwin discs and the meta continues to be only vw discs everywhere pvp and ques stay long cause nobody will play anything else against it. Just like m+ suffer if tank and healer balance is bad.
They can so easily tune numbers and use pvp/pve templates even for weekly resets but they are letting things go as it is for months on end and end game suffer of horrible balance season after season. Players have to win lottery for their class or keep rerolling cause balance is so terrible that its almost unplayable as anything else than meta for the season.
So in other words, any class released with any bug interferring with combat should stay as it is without any fix, or some specs that outperform others by huge margin … congratulations, you unlocked a new level of whatever it is
Also, class changes are not balance changes (a.k.a. nerfing, buffing)
It’s called balancing for some reason (even though we know, it’s not working ideally).
Some specs just need to be buffed, to be closer to average performace of others.
In the same way, some classes need to be nerfed, so they are not positioned on the throne as “meta”, causing people who play non-meta specs to not be ever invited (either m+ or raiding).
But yeah I guess it’s better to have for months lfg queues filled with frost dk or arcane mages.
Whoa whoa, wait … what? haven’t you say in first post exact opposite?
So yeah, there will be team of 50 people working 24hrs a day, just collecting data from all modes of end game content. Afterwards, they’ll analyze the data and will decide what needs to be balance and which way it has to be balanced. Then another 50 people will prepare all technical steps to implement those changes into live game, they’ll make sure the changes won’t cause any bugs or game disrruptions. Don’t forget to test it first of course. But hey, we have 7 days a week, it’s easy peasy job
If you would know in the slightest the job of game developer, game designer or game tester you would deffinitely know, that what you’re demanding is just a non sense.
If your world spins around “meta”, I feel sorry for you, cause apparently any change to “meta” throne will distrub you and make you angry and unhappy to play your favorite class.
They are truly mocking us! Where are the LONG BEARDS FOR HUMANS?!