When noone is hyped about seing teams either abusing Voidweaver or trying to tunnel it to the ground with meelecleaves. I thinkl that the tuining is not there because of AWC but what’s the point of such AWC?
Blizzard har resources to tune Legion: Remix so I’m pretty sure they have resources to take care of Voidweaver. I don’t even mind a bit overtuned Hunters, DKs, Rets or Destruction Warlocks as there is always a way to punish them for mistakes or being to cocky because they play fotm but Voidweaver literally makes you play around him. You have to shut it’s damage down but when you pair it with Destru for example you cannot shut down both.
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50%ppls arent even queueing ,they just make this too long to do any good tuning,season feels so bad moslty bcs of one spec,void.
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This is copium. If anything awc should be reason to tuning cos as we can see game is not balanced at all. Also last time there was tuning more often than once per season was prolly in legion. We’re stucked with this class balance till the end of season (if not till the end of expansion)
Blizzard is incompetent lazy and clueless
alone they HEAVY MW NERF obliterate the specc while buffing a alrdy good specc Disc into Good level of overpowert
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We’ve seen it multiple times that they didn’t change things not to ruin preparations for players. They did it once in Legion I think and then they had to play AWC on previous patch because it ruined everyone’s preparation. So I guess that’s the only reason. Disc reaches representation level of Ret in DF season 1 so they definetely know. Also it doesn’t seem they are 100% all in into Midnight as they tuned Legion: Remix.
Great they can find time to tune some remix that is not end game content but there for tmogs and stuff, but not find time to nerf vw in retail pvp which is end game. So retail season is affected by the lack of proper tuning.
And anybody that tries argue that “pvp is not cost efficient” it doesnt cost a nickel of anyones time to do one adjustment in parameters to change single number in code. It doesnt take much time to change something from 100% to become something else in PvP templates. Literally takes 10 seconds to do.
There simply is no excuse to it why we dont see even weekly tuning happening between each reset. Wow is not only game which require tuning now and then, I know even free games that did frequent changes twice a month to the game just because something were too overpowered compared to other variations. There is no excuse on why retri is ruining season so long or why vw is ruining season so long.
Anything that shows to be performing overwhelmingly well compared to the rest, to a point that people even stop playing anything else or the game all together, should obviously be adjusted in next reset even every week if that is what it takes to maintain somesort of balance.
It’s video game where people want to comfortably play some class of their chosing, not to struggle vs something that is clearly way stronger than theirs. Its self explanatory why maintaining balance is only thing that matters in a game with classes. Retocalypse come to mind. Why do I need to see this bad balancing in general is beyond me. The least they should do is have regular tuning.
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i thought the EU final was a voidweaver V a holy priest? in which Echo won ( was any one expecting a different result regardless of what healer Jayti was playing?) if he was on holy, he would have still won, in fact, it would have been easier for him.
American one didnt see a voidweaver in the final, Awakened’s team ( Dogs and Cats ) got beat twice 3 - 0 by Gators back, and nearlly got knocked out by f tier….. Kalvish, Wizkx, and Kubzy owned Cats and dogs. Twice!!! 6-0…….
When the finals come round. Echo will most likely win it again……… will it matter what healer Jayti is playing? Not really. He has Merci, Rikku and Whazz as team mates.
They beat Voidweaver with specially tailored comp to train the Voidweaver. It worked for Cdew on weaker teams.
And well Swapxy, Bicmex and Fuseton are great players too. Would they win if Jayti was Holy? Maybe… but Disc + Destru combination is insanely strong. Also if you noticed map is a big factor. Why didn’t Swapxy play DK again in last game? Because it would get owned on this map so he tried Feral. Echo is already great and doesn’t need such advantages. Also just because some other teams didn’t have to play Disc doesn’t mean it’s not op. Why in NA finals it wasn’t Voidweaver vs Voidweaver? Because these two teams have comps able to beat it. Nick and Drake did it with Assa/Unh/Holy and Kalvish team plays RMP where you can shut down Rift Windows. Not every team has this option. Right now Voidweaver dictates the meta. You either need to play it or play something tailored to shut it down.
Kalish, Kubzy, and Wizkx, won playing SP, restro Shammy, Rogue. not RMP.
People care about the balance for AWC is like what 100 competitors max
People care about good balance in Retail is way more
Blizzard should not think ONE Sec of there much needed balance patch for the Live game should be hold back because some swetlords have a tournament
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rmp feral destro assa destro void are abominations this ssn, mm still 1shots randomly, just saw 10mil black arrow few days back and 80-0 my hpal in 1.1 sec XDD fire also immortal with rog/feral void/hpriest stalls the game so long then ppl randomly die to combust out of cc due to damp nice design
That’s not everything. MM is a btw a bug because it should hit 3x Aimed Shot into three different targets but it does into the same one.
And Fire… Well great design of hero talents. First Combust is only to stack damage then 2nd you Unleash all Pheonix stacks. It can litterally deal 6-8 mln in 1 sec while Fire adds it’s damage. Amazing design. Seems like TWW god abandoned already. Also I don’t know if you heard about it but char transfers from Legion: Remix is disabled as they allowed to transfer chars with bonuses so 6 people did mythic raid. Oh and last month dev posted that you can get artifact color variants that you didn’t get back then during original Legion… Now they removed the bluepost as it doesn’t work.
I mean I like a lot of Midnight changes but current expansion prepaid still costs money. I already paid and I’d like to get at least mediocre quality product. The more I check WoW news for Voidweaver nerfs more hiccups I find. I get it that the dev team is smaller etc. because MS fired some people but it’s not like past seasons didn’t look the same. There were many broken specs maybe not to this extent like Voidweaver (besides Ret in DF season 1) but let’s not pretend the game was perfect.
Anyway I’d enjoy the game even with Unh, Hunters, Destru and Fire being a bit overtuned if at least healers were balanced.
I dont know what need to happen or does chairs and tomatos need to fly on AWC champions before they realise?
They created such a bad game in term of balancing that respect toward those who play God tier specs totaly ceased to exist, and turned into pure disrespect and spits.
Why? because better do not win ! and this expansion this is more obvious than ever.
Maybe they want to wait for more data as there is also MDI going and then they will balance everything. I don’t know.