After 18 years of playing wow, thanks to X-Realm auction house and the (in my opinion, S-Tier) profession system, I finally got to try out the money-making way to play the game, and I must say I have really been enjoying it.
What I have NOT been enjoying is the fact that in order to make any money, you have to literally just camp the auction house and repost your item every 30 seconds or even less, because you literally have all of Europe underposting/undercutting you. This has sucked out all the enjoyment out of money-making for me.
Can we please get a better system than this? Games like EVE online have solved this issue more than a decade ago.
Are you telling me there’s an addon that can auto-repost? That’s insane and should be disabled.
Except for being able to post items for sale like on wow, people can also list “buy orders”. Basically, a person can list that they are willing to buy X of item for price of Y currency each. Then the seller can sell to that person instantly through the buy order. This also leads to quicker convergence of the posted items to the actual, not artificially inflated, price.
One problem is, these smarty pants who keep lowering the price with 1C or 1S, and basically destroy the AH.
I have my hearth stone in main city, I skin, Mine, Herb (not on the same character obviously), and sell. But that’s the main thing I noticed, people keep lowering their prices over and over again.
See this is pretty much exactly what i thought work orders were going to be. But for crafted items of course.
While on the topic of undercutting. In Runescapes version of the AH, prices are automatically set depending on supply and demand (think how the WoW token works). Meaning it is impossible to undercut or “play the AH”. But it comes with the side effect of the market not being in players control. For better or worse.
Or at least this is how it used to work. I have not played Runescape for a very long time.
Well, like any game mode, you need to invest time into it to get the reward. You’re not supposed to make items, and post them and come back 3 hours later to a stash of gold. It should be a boring and degenerate process. After all most players want to make gold to buy WoWTokens for Game time or store mounts. So if the process was fun and exciting everyone would be doing it and nobody would need to pay for Subs or making any cash transactions.
Now I quite enjoy camping the AH anyway. But I realise it’s not the most challenging content and quite boring for most people. But my god, when you’re making 1 Million + per hour (like I was last Reset day) its incredibly rewarding and engaging :D.
You can just undercut to a price where they dont follow. It seems to me that the price is too high since the compettion is so high. My self i sell alot, but i lower the price to a minimum and i get less or no competition and i dont have to cancel scan at all.
Yes the margin is low, but i get constant sales. Of cause you need to camp the AH when the profit margin is high, because there is this high profit properly because the price is too high. Just lower it.
I do not know… I am a simple person selling my stuff with Auctionator and anything other than some caged pets and recipes generally sells within 12 hours.
Sometimes I even list them for higher than the lowest price because there is such a buying frenzy that the more expensive items can still sell
Yes, and it’s terrible, it should have been banned a long time ago. But I guess its users generate quite a lot of traffic for Blizzard with token and store items, so nothing is done.
The people that knows the ins and out of TSM does not buy WoW tokens. Well, maybe they buy the ones off the AH to then buy store stuff. But there are only so many mounts and pets. And the real AH goblins would likely be able to buy enough tokens to get every pet and mount in an evening.
That said, TSM has many other uses than just automating the AH. Like tracking and calculating profits on items. Which is great to make sure you don’t accidentally sell stuff for less than the cost of the materials.
It can also calculate your most profitable items, revenue, gold spent, average gold made during a certain period, etc.
It’s pretty much a must-have addon for any aspiring gold maker. Even a casual one, because you really are shooting your self in your foot by not using it.
Info and calculation is fine. If they ban TSM as it is (which they should), there’d certainly be a version that only contains these features.
Automation is not fun. It’s not allowed in any other context. You can’t use simple “IF / THEN” type logic in combat (for good reason) so you also shouldn’t be able to do so for other parts of the game.
I mean, “problem” is subjective. You may call the need to run a marathon race on foot a “problem”, but some users using a car isn’t really a “solution”.
Being undercut within 1 second by 1 silver is a problem, especially when you don’t care about the profit (ie you got a boe drop and just want to sell it for a decent price). Buy orders would solve this as it would make the goblins compete with each other for the item in your pocket.
(originally I thought blizz will implement this but we got crafting orders instead).
The 1s undercut thing could also be fixed, but it would be a bit artificial. They’d need to add fees for listing and modifying the price of an item based on a percent of the total price.
For example if you lower the price of the item by a tiny amount, the modification fee is large, and the bigger the change the smaller the cost. And ofc if you cancel the auction you’ll have to pay the listing fee again.
Simply banning addons wouldn’t solve the issue, it would just cause a lot of annoyance for a lot of people.
It works in many other games and has been working in reality for decades. I know blizz is hesitant to copy concepts but let’s try to catch up to the 20th century at least.
What are you guys sellint that have this issue? I go to AH and sell all the stuff from my inventory every now and then and they just sell instantly. I don’t undecut but sell at the lowest price unless it’s someone posting for too low as a trick.
