Seems the nerfs on Aug Evoker wasnt enough and the spec remain top tier.
Aug evoker brings too much utility to dungeon the healer and tank buffs makes dungeon much easier with it top dps . i mean Aug is a support spec why its DPS is among top classes ? I guess if you want to keep Aug as support spec you need to nerf the overall dps to the ground otherwise if you just nerf the utilities it turns into a DPS spec no more support .
As ilvl upgrade is too big this patch so we get more Intelect than ever on the Aug so nerfing Ebon Might to 6.5 % makes no change in overall .
I guess Tank and Healers must benefit less from Ebon might for like if a dps getting 1000 primary stat healer and tank should get like 500 primary from Ebon might so it will make the Aug situation better .
Thanks, we havent had a new thread rehashing this in at least an hour, i was starting to worry that peoples outrage had diminished.
Because you are confused. Its not a support spec. Its officially a DPS spec and balanced as such. So it makes total sense that it does ~ as much dps as other DPS.
If you want to fix Aug in dungeons, just dont allow it to buff healers and tanks. DONE.
But if you do that, it would become trash regardlses of how much dps it does because its more reliable to bring a “normal” dps instead.
Not a good idea. As long as Aug buffs the heaer/tank by 100 primary stat and 0.5% vers its still much more than what any other class does.
And as such, it will remain top tier as long as: A) The dungeon meta is bottle-necked arround survivability/healer checks B) it continues to buff healers/tanks by ANY ammount. Direcly (via Ebon Might) or indirectly with vers buffs/utility to party.
The only solution is buff = 0. DONE.
The spec is a support spec so i guess healer and tanks must get benefit from the Aug , if they dont so its no longer a support its just a Dps spec . its obvious that healer and tank must get super less value from the buffs but also its the same for other dps as well . i mean its a support spec so the its dps must not be even close to 2 other dps specs in the dungeon .
Dont be dense. I dont care WHAT it is.
I only care what its classified as. Its classified as a DPS and gets balanced as such.
YES, its a problem to be in that limbo. I agree. But the issues Aug causes is precicelly the fact that it exists in that limbo.
If you want to classify Aug as Support, you need to make a new support rol. Currently there are 3: Tank, Healer, DPS.
Add anotherone. Which implies: Dungeons now need 1-1-1-3 configuration. Raid bosses need to be tuned assuming X support roles will be present, ect…
OR… Dont make a new role. Keep it with the DPS bunch.
Then you turn it into a proper DPS like Devastation.
That it. Option A, or Option B. There is no Option C of keeping things as they are.
It does not matter how much more or less DPS it does with respect to others. What matters is how much HEALING it does with respect to other DPS (which, I insist, currently is what Aug is classified as).
As long as HEALING is > than any other DPS, then it can do 0 dps for all I care. It will still be meta.
I say this as a 3.2k io Aug. The spec just needs to be nuked. It’s not fair on other DPS players, like it would’ve been fine if it was taking the Healer spot in the dungeon but the average DPS already spends so much time in LFG, to basically have 1 spec be practically mandatory in high keys is too much, it’s even worse on some weeks like bursting where you have Aug AND Priest be mandatory.
Its not even fair to the other 2 Evoker specs. Devastation/Prevoker lovers cannot do M+ in any keys above a +15 because they will get kicked out.
I find it ridiculous that in some keys in S2 some poor Evokers had to deliberatelly ask if we (the rest of the party) had issues with them being Devastation. As if asking for permission. Its lame.
I mean, Devastation does amazing DPS and Pvoker heals is a really good healer.
Its just sad really.
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