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AV has become either a rushfest win for hordes cuz the 19years continued problem still exist that the hordes can rush faster to north than alliance can rush south. also there seems no reason anymore for hordes to destroy bunkers cuz they can just rush endboss and nuke him like its a walk in the park the npcs in the entire bg needs to be buffed up 10xtimes. or it has become a losing defense fest for alliance as usual wich is a long waste of time to lose
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some pve prebis items or even bis items are either from pvp honor rank or pve rep like leage of arathor or stormpike for quite some classes. this is knowledge since 2019 classic but nothing has been done about it… in phase 1 you made it able that WSG rep farm was doable with a weekly pve quest that gives 1000 rep per week and afterward its changed to a daily quest. why has this not been done for leage of arathor and stormpike? i mean if you do it for one you gota do it for all or ensure that pvp items dont become pve bis items
. that honor ranks canot be changed to be obtained without pvp i can understand but rep items from pvp that is bis for pve is just nuts :s
And some pve items are bis for pvp but not acquirable via any other pve activity besides raids /which I’m not fan of /. So , what’s the solution?
nerfs and upgrades of pvp and pve items to ensure pvp items are for pvp only and pve items for pve only. they had time since 2019 classic to do that and for that period they had that knowledsge since 2004 vanilla
Or just let classical wow remain like the wild west where bis items can be looted from anywhere. Too much item sanitation these days.
Guys, it’s classic. You obviously know how it works since it’s been out there for nearly 20 years. You want BiS items, you do the grind. You don’t wanna do the grind, you skip on the BiS item.
That being said I’m kinda bummed to see AV being a rushfest ending in 5 min. I really hoped to see the old version where we could use all the ressources it has to offer.
I know this might sound crazy, but have you tried… wait a minute, let me check my notes… Ah right, have you tried PVP? Like what if you just attack the Horde players on route north?
if the map was fair then yes but if you do that you get a alliance defense lose bg so why the hell would we do that? knowing the hordes can rush fast
Giving up without a fight, classic Alliance.
ofc why would we fight in a map that is clearly in high advantage of horde to win than alliance xD you go ahead waste your time for a few honor and 1 mark per lose in a 1h+ defense bg. no ty for me
Not to be rude but try playing the game before commenting otherwise it’s embarrassing.
DUde u are super wrong…Alliance have the biggest advantage in AV… THE BRIDGE! get 2-3 hunters and no1 passes!
Its stupidly broken.
isn’t it funny how the vast majority of these “this needs to change”-posts are made by human avatars?
dude, deal with it and stop crying.
because that’s how you win a bg, you silly noob.
First day win win win, then someone over at the alliance HQ finally figured out to put a couple of hunters on the bridge spamming traps.
Now lose lose lose.
I Don’t mind fast lose or win, i just want the rep, but yea its stupid design for 40v40 BG, surely there should be some actually pvp fighting going on in there.
every bg alliance has like 14hunter on the bridge making it impossible to cross , OP just afk bg every game for sure 
make sod great again and delete hunt extra range/trap launcher 
Well, I don’t like AV very much, but yesterday with fresh 51 I gave it a try since I want the rep offhand.
And hey, I was too happy that Horde and Alliance seemed to agree on 3 -5 minute games. Horde won a bit more often, but in the end everybody could be satisfied. The faster team won, which might have depended on the number of slowing hunters.
Personally I prefer AB because that will definitely end at some point. I dislike BGs that can take hours and hours. With a loss they are even worse of course.
Sometimes I even like the zerg, but that is when I am exalted and/or got the needed honor. As long as I have “goals” I want it fast. Next. 
lets wait and speak again untill your start point as horde gets fixed to the back cave for horde side like they did in classic and SoM and will happen for SoD aswell. noob or no noob there is a small chance to win as alliance now seeing hordes already reaches our first bunker and GY while alliance just passes balinda bunker at that same moment ( and yes that is with epic mounts before you ask )
Retail player detected
yes since 2004 
but now more classic since 2019 than retail
hey man, i don’t mind them moving the cave. they did it before and i expected it to be the same this time around.
to be honest i am having a bit of a laugh about them forgetting to do it.
once again blizzard shows its incompetence.
its a running gag at this point.
that being said, moving the cave won’t result in auto wins for alliance, if that’s what you expect.
horde will go back to breaking your rush at iceblood and alliance will give up and “let them win” when that happens, like what happened back in 2020.
drek or kek, as you well know.