BAD DPS in rogue (Need help)

Hi…

I have an 119-120 ilvl rogue and i have been testing my dps in dummies ever since i was 70ilvl.

When i was ilvl 80 i have made burst of 2.9k as sublety and steady dps of 1.8

Now that i am 120 ilvl , I have the EXACT same dps.

My burst as sub is 2.4.-2.8 for the first 20-30 sec of the fight and then lowers to 1.7-1.9 … My energy keeps running out also.

I have tried to use the Assassination spec and OutLaw but same deal… I can not maintain over 2.1k steady dps in dummies.

When i go to dungeon i see other rogues and other classes pull out 3-7k dps when lower geared than me.

Can someone help me in game to see what’s wrong? Lol

Essence , secondery stats . acarite traits effects dps not only ilvl

I have recommended ones as in guides for all specs…the damage just sucks and i ran out of energy SO often in sublety/assasination and can’t spam finishers properly… yes i do have the azerite 50% mana one.

Was kinda expecting other rogues to tell me their DPS in a 1-2 min fight at same ilvl. mine is at 1.9-2.2k max.

u know that a sub rogue do normaly 4.5k+ dps ?

I currently am on my sub spec, i will link you the page for my character stats/azrite powers and i am doing 2.5 burst and after 20 sec down to 1.8-1.9 and out of energy. my aoe is barely 3k burst and down to 2k

So: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/the-maelstrom/weirdagent

uhh this explines alot … :smiley:

i use moustly

Major Essence
Worldvein Resonance rank 3

Minor Essences
The Crucible of Flame rank 3
Memory of Lucid Dreams rank 3
Breath of the Dying rank 3

heed my call i have stacked 3x

stat wight i use

Agi
Mastery
Ver

So my gear is “supposed” to make 2.6k burst and 1.9k steady dps? if yes then at least i can farm better one

i recomend u go for the Worldvein Resonance rank 3 as first thing …

As a sub rogue:

Single-Target Stat Priority

The general single-target stat priority for a Subtlety Rogue is:

  1. Critical Strike;
  2. Versatility;
  3. Mastery;
  4. Haste.

On single-target, all four stats are very close to each other. If you do not have access to The First Dance Icon The First Dance, Haste becomes your best stat.

Multi-Target Stat Priority

The general multi-target stat priority for a Subtlety Rogue is:

  1. Mastery;
  2. Critical Strike;
  3. Versatility;
  4. Haste.

For PvP

  1. Mastery
  2. Vers

Traits

Inner Ring

The Inner Ring consists mostly of defensive or utility traits.

Longstrider Icon Longstrider is arguably the best “DPS” option in this tier. By increasing your movement speed, it allows you to close gaps and dodge things slightly faster.

Resounding Protection Icon Resounding Protection is an absorb shield that automatically gets applied every 30 seconds. This is one of the best defensive traits to have, as you will always be able to benefit from it.

Azerite Trait Rotation Changes and Details for Subtlety Rogue

Some of your Azerite Traits in BFA can have a small effect on your rotation (more so in the prepatch).

  • Night's Vengeance Icon Night’s Vengeance gives you a buff for 8 seconds after casting Rupture Icon Rupture, which increases the damage done of your next Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate. Due to the short duration of the buff, you want to make sure you refresh Rupture just before entering Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance to stack all damage multipliers for maximum DPS gain. In AoE situations, make sure to alter between Rupture and Eviscerate to get maximum benefit from the trait.
  • Perforate Icon Perforate causes your Backstab Icon Backstab to give you a buff which increases the damage done of your next Backstabs for 12 seconds, stacking up to 3 times. Keeping this buff up is not going to require too much attention, but aim to refresh it before you enter Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance. Do not worry about it too much, because it is a very marginal gain.
  • The First Dance Icon The First Dance alters your Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance rotation slightly due to the Combo Points it gives upon activating Shadow Dance. You will often end up with 5+ Combo Points after your first Shadowstrike Icon Shadowstrike, which means that you should use a finisher instead.

For PvP

Outer Rings

Below are the best Outer Ring traits.

  1. Night's Vengeance Icon Night’s Vengeance
  2. The First Dance Icon The First Dance
  3. Heart of Darkness Icon Heart of Darkness (Now gives you stat anyway)
  4. Inevitability Icon Inevitability
  5. Blade In The Shadows Icon Blade In The Shadows

Subtlety Rogues do not depend on one single trait to increase their damage. Instead, they want a mix of the above traits. Because most of your damage is increased by your Mastery, you want to maximize the damage of your Eviscerate Icon Eviscerates. This means Night's Vengeance Icon Night’s Vengeance will give you the most burst and sustained damage. You want at least one The First Dance Icon The First Dance for the stat increase and the Combo Points that are generated. Blade In The Shadows Icon Blade In The Shadows and Inevitability Icon Inevitability both increase your overall damage output and work well with the above traits. If your Corruption Level is 25 or higher, Heart of Darkness Icon Heart of Darkness provides a great boost to your secondary stats.

Middle Ring

Below are the best Middle Ring traits.

  1. Heed My Call Icon Heed My Call
  2. Earthlink Icon Earthlink
  3. Overwhelming Power Icon Overwhelming Power (Personal favorite)
  4. Elemental Whirl Icon Elemental Whirl

The Middle and Inner rings are important for additional damage. Elemental Whirl Icon Elemental Whirl, Overwhelming Power Icon Overwhelming Power, and Earthlink Icon Earthlink give an increase to your stats. These are minor stat boosts, but still increase your damage. Heed My Call Icon Heed My Call will help increase your single target pressure.

Inner Ring

Below are the best Inner Ring traits.

  1. Resounding Protection Icon Resounding Protection
  2. Shrouded Mantle Icon Shrouded Mantle
  3. Impassive Visage Icon Impassive Visage

Essences

Raid

Worldvein Resonance (Major: Worldvein Resonance Icon Worldvein Resonance / Minor: Lifeblood Icon Lifeblood) is the best single-target essence

Minor

  • The Crucible of Flame (Ancient Flame Icon Ancient Flame) is strong on pure single-target due to high DPS output. (Broken dmg in the prepatch)
  • Memory of Lucid Dreams (Memory of Lucid Dreams Icon Memory of Lucid Dreams) is the highest DPS minor essence on both single target and AoE due to increased resource gain.
  • Conflict and Strife (Strife Icon Strife) is solid for both single-target and AoE. (You could also use Blood of the enemy)

Dungeons

In dungeons i change the major. I use mostly Blood of the enemy and Reaping flame due to being broken in the prepatch.

PVP

  1. Reaping in bg (due to being broken), would also use it in arena if you dont have the drest trinket. If you got the drest trinket you could also use blood of the enemy and combo it for huge dmg.

Minor: Conflict, lucid and crusible.

I can only speak for outlaw how to dmg
Traits :
1 ace up your sleeve
1 brigands blitz
3 deadshot
3 overwhelming power
Major :
essence blood of the enemy
Minors :
memory of lucid dream
Breath of the dying
Vision of perfection
Trinkets :
Torment in a jar+dead eye spyglass
Enchants :
versatile navi+deadly navi
Potion of unbridled fury
This should more then enough to out dps most of the classes or rogue specs
Hope it helps

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