I’m sick and bored of your loot system Blizzard. I actually cancelled my sub recently because of it.
I’m only getting gear that I do not need. On my pally I’m getting rings and trinkets for weeks now, while I’m still having a 239 weapon and other bad gear.
This system is so bad compared to everything we had in the past, that I cannot even describe it.
No wonder your active population is getting lower every passing day.
I understand to have some luck involved, for the gacha lovers who will jump here below to fight me. Addiction is the main thing for them.
I’m a calculated person and I simply hate this randomness that doesn’t make any sense. It’s just dumb luck and that’s it.
I do not have time to farm like the others, I only play few hours every week and I don’t stand a chance to gear up my toons this way, not even my main.
I’m sad to say it, but I’m very disappointed now … and I play wow since 2006. I could say that I never was so disappointed in WoW. Your dev team is doing a terrible job. From 1 to 10 I’d give them a 2 at max.
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How to quickly fix it ?
The weekly chest and the quests that are giving higher item level gear should generate the loot for the slots with the lowest item level, to help people who weren’t lucky with normal loot from the dungeons, raids or pvp.
In my case, that silly weekly chest is always giving me the best gear that I already have, so it’s useless.
The only legit way to gear up is from PvP, but because of PvP I already left the game once and I don’t want to leave it again … the ranking system in arena is for another ranting topic :))
I agree to a certain degree… the randomness is frustrating at the best of times.
I think this is a major contention point between the more “casual” and “elite” because the “elite” do such a ridiculous amount of content every week that it semi counters the bad luck. And tyat gives the illusion the game is only made for the elite.
But still, regardless of how bad it is right now, its still better than Vanilla. Yes i am still salty that over a year of farming BWL and MC every week we had a total of 2 hunter legs drop.
I have same feeling - I am farming a weapon - offhand - doing various keys from 2 to 15 (max so far) and I didn’t see any weapon drop for my spec. RNG is not good for me right now for at least minimum 3 - 4 weeks :D. (I think it’s even more), Got one weapon upgrade from Vault.
On my server I don’t want to wait 20 - 30 minutes on BG queue - was thinking somehow to upgrade from 229 ilvl offhand…
So I understand this feeling. Good point is that there is no Valor cap, so I could farm more than 5k valor if even M2 weapon dropped to upgrade it highest possible ilvl and then farm valor further. but, nope ;D
to be honest, the game needs a catchup system that actualy works, and not this where you can only buy 246 gear but higher gear, make it cost valor that you can get gear up to, lets say 265 from buying with valor, including weapons, rings and trinkets. it would still take time to get the item, but atleast you would know that if you have that one item you need to replace you can do it.
in a way yes, offcourse the lower item the more valor it would cost to uppgrade, and I dont just meen mythic dungeon loot, but even from heroic and up, including raid drops, if done properly it can work well.
yep… It’s weird how the loot system works.
It’s one of the reason i will probably quit after my subs will expire.
I’ve been farming the warlock tier set from molten core for 2 months on 2 separate chars, sometime on 3… and i still didn’t get the chest and the shoulders(the most important parts)
another example is that the warglaives from from black temple never drop on my dh but they dropped on my mage and pala.
It’s very frustrating.
I hope they will do something about this.
One of the sollutions to your problem is to gather a team of classes with the same armor type as you. Then you have higher chance for something usefull.
At one point a friend of mine was farming some leather item so i even switched from tank loot to dd so he has higher chance for the item.
Have to agree. I run Tazavesh streets on all my 4 tanks yet none of them can loot the freaking trinket. Just so sick of it. Always some crappy shoulders or high mastery ring. Just stupid when there is finally a good tank trinket from m+ yet you can’t ever get it.
Have you considered the fact that MMO’s are a poor genre for you if you don’t have a lot of time to play? You shouldn’t expect fast progress with a small investment.
what you say would be true if the gear was sticking with you for more then just 4-5 months in one season…
But ye i agree with MMO is not a short term thingy
you need to invest a time into this thing
The problem is that blizzard m+ doesn’t belong into MMO and gearing via that monstrosity with so much randomness will force people to say things like
i killed this dungeons 20 times and yet i didn’t see trinket from MoTS
I don’t have a quick fix but I do have a suggestion
My main issue is also the whole RNG system of the weekly quest, though I’d like to preserve the big wednesday feel but make it more deterministic
Acquisition
Valor Vendors, doesn’t need much more explanation, as we had it before. Maybe even also add the Valor Upgrade system in, could go hand in hand well if designed around eachother.
Doesn’t need as much upgradeable ranks on it as we have now.
Big Wednesday
The current system of the great vault could be repurposed here, the ‘objectives’ portion remains, but instead of getting RNG gear, it gives you incrementing values of Valor points according to how many objectives you complete in a week each wednesday to spend on the Valor vendors.
You could change the pvp section of the great vault to do the same but with conquest points.
The core here is that the current RNG gear in the vault given by the objectives in it gets replaced by valor points which you can then spend at a vendor. (or maybe make the payout instant but have it reset on wednesday)
I’m not a dev tho obv. so I’m sure there’s other downpoints to this I’m not seeing or doesn’t even fit everyones taste but the last ones a given
I would take this anytime
i would go even further and did put all dungeon gear into vendor for high valor cost
and then as you said every wednesday would be christmas because of youget big chunk of valor
and if you decided you could farm all day for items
but it’s better simply because it’s your own choice when you go to farm gear
right now you are dependant on wednesday christmas vault with 1 item
and then you need to go into dungeons and hunt for specific items
but what about the meaningful loot ™ that a select few inflicted on us all … don’t you feel excitement for every piece of gear that drops who knew that those who clinged to the “good old days” of loot like the fossils they are unable to accept that like a wise man once said “times change” would ruin it for the rest of us
some classic andys just aren’t content to play classic where their beloved meaningful loot was but have to ruin it for everyone else too
if they think RNG on top of RNG is meaningful loot
PVP system isn’t random and it’s great people like
meanwhile i’m stuck with runing mists of tirna scythe 1000 times this expansion because of one trinket
same think for DoS
at some point it became terrible
and it’s one of the main reasons this expansoin failed
I was there at the begining when this forum was full of threads about loot not droping no rewards why am i doing stuff…
and shills were there to defend
They talked about loot system being better then before
they loved that blizzard removed bonus rolls etc
they think this game is gonna be good without
and as we know shadowlands failed hard
and BAD loot system is one of the reasons you can put on that table of fails
dragonflight will be more of the same i have 0 faith in ion the inept running dungeons are boring enough when you actually got loot now you often get 0 loot and just waste your time other then the vault even then you just get 3 rings you don’t need can’t even play my alts because it takes forever to gear my main specially when it comes to weapons
one easy solution would be to make world drops uppgradable also, so item drops even in the open world would be worth using if you find a good one, could make them just a tad lower item level than the max raid, like for example world drops can be uppgraded to 260 or so, but costs little bit less to uppgrade, or even use an other currency you can farm in the open, it would help a lot for alts and to get that one item up to decent item level.
the randomness is frustrating at the best of times.
if they think RNG on top of RNG is meaningful loot