I just wanted to say that both Saurfang and Baine are spineless weaklings for not going all out against the Alliance during WAR.
I mean, I have personally never partaken in a war, but I imagine it would be pretty easy to put your life on the line and to kill other people, so the fact that Baine and Saurfang fail to live up to my ideal of a situation I have never been in proves to me that they are cowards.
I mean, how hard can it be to put yourself in a situation in which you die? I do it all the time with my character in game and that definetly a good standard by which to judge the mental fortitude of actual warriors.
So what if we killed a million elf children? This is WAR! In WAR you are supposed to kill everyone on the other side. Sylvanas told me so, and she is pragmatic, which I think means smart. I sure as hell would not have qualms about it if I were in their shoes, I imagine, so they are spineless traitors for having any doubts. I mean, who has not burned down an orphanage once or twice?
I wish we could just get rid of them, because we have so many other well-established characters that could take their place. After all, there is no place in the Horde for diferring viewpoints. Everyone should just agree with Sylvanas. That will not be boring or one-sided at all.
There is of course no way these characters create a balance and variety to the faction or that they could be critical to the story in a way I do not understand because I am not part of the creative process, and they defintely could not be developed in a manner I will ultimately enjoy in the future, so they should just be killed off, not wasting any character potental like they did with Garrosh.
04/11/2018 20:49Posted by DarvingarI have personally never partaken in a war,
Neither did I, and we are lucky that we didn't, in case the latest cinematic hadn't shown you just how much suffering haunts a people at war. A Harbor that was previously full of life and bustle, now reduced to a graveyard for countless fallen soldiers.
So what if we killed a million elf children? This is WAR! In WAR you are supposed to kill everyone on the other side. Sylvanas told me so, and she is pragmatic, which I think means smart.
And that is my cue to leave this thread, Have a nice discussion everyone!
Came here expecting someone to whiny about them and it is exactly what I got, why am I not surprised.
Fixed it for you.
Edit : Osirenne, I know that is you..
I just wanted to say that both Saurfang and Baine are spineless weaklings for not going all out against the Forsaken Puppet State during WAR.
Fixed it for you.
Edit : Osirenne, I know that is you..
04/11/2018 20:49Posted by DarvingarI have personally never partaken in a war,
Neither did I, and we are lucky that we didn't, in case the latest cinematic hadn't shown you just how much suffering haunts a people at war. A Harbor that was previously full of life and bustle, now reduced to a graveyard for countless fallen soldiers.
So what if we killed a million elf children? This is WAR! In WAR you are supposed to kill everyone on the other side. Sylvanas told me so, and she is pragmatic, which I think means smart.
And that is my cue to leave this thread, Have a nice discussion everyone!
Ha! I will strike you down human!
Woosh!
Damn. It seems my attack passed over his head.
So what if we killed a million elf children? This is WAR! In WAR you are supposed to kill everyone on the other side.
You're confusing war with genocide. You better do some research about essence of war and "art of war" before starting discussions like that.
https://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Saurfang_facts
04/11/2018 21:07Posted by ZakkaruSo what if we killed a million elf children? This is WAR! In WAR you are supposed to kill everyone on the other side.
You're confusing war with genocide. You better do some research about essence of war and "art of war" before starting discussions like that.
Hah! You know nothing of war. Unlike me, who has spent countless hours fighting PvP in game. I know the glory of killing an enemy on the battlefield, and that mercy is a weakness.
04/11/2018 20:52Posted by ArcturAnd that is my cue to leave this thread, Have a nice discussion everyone!
04/11/2018 20:53Posted by FrozenshadowCame here expecting someone to whiny about them and it is exactly what I got, why am I not surprised.
You would disagree with what he just said but then you like scumbags like Garithos who almost killed thousands of people who were not actually his enemies in a war. Nice double standards here...at least the Night Elves in Teldrassil died against their enemy, not a former ally :P
and there's never honor in war anyway, even in the Alliance...I'm sorry but this is just the cold truth. I mean Anduin straight said he can't beat her exactly because of the way Sylvanas fights and will need the help of Saurfang for this reason.
04/11/2018 21:07Posted by Zakkaru...
You're confusing war with genocide. You better do some research about essence of war and "art of war" before starting discussions like that.
Hah! You know nothing of war. Unlike me, who has spent countless hours fighting PvP in game. I know the glory of killing an enemy on the battlefield, and that mercy is a weakness.
Honorable Kills: 1
Watch out, we have badass over here.
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Hah! You know nothing of war. Unlike me, who has spent countless hours fighting PvP in game. I know the glory of killing an enemy on the battlefield, and that mercy is a weakness.
Honorable Kills: 1
Watch out, we have badass over here.
That is because there is no honor in war. I wish Saurfang had learned that lesson.
Is this some caricature of an Horde fan or simple RPing?
Oh my gosh, by the Light, what are you doing Osirenne, what are you doing you traitor. You betrayed us all. You're not even Human anymore, how could you do this. Do you know what is the worst possible sin that a Human can commit? To willingly abandon their Human Potential™ that was given to them at birth. You should be ashamed of yourself.
By the way, your trolling attempt was very poor. It was blatantly obvious that you weren't being serious the moment you said that Sylvanas is smart because she is pragmatic.
By the way, your trolling attempt was very poor. It was blatantly obvious that you weren't being serious the moment you said that Sylvanas is smart because she is pragmatic.
04/11/2018 21:29Posted by ArcturOh my gosh, by the Light, what are you doing Osirenne, what are you doing you traitor. You betrayed us all. You're not even Human anymore, how could you do this. Do you know what is the worst possible sin a Human can commit? To willingly abandon their Human Potential™ that was given to them at birth. You should be ashamed of yourself.
By the way, your trolling attempt was very poor. It was blatantly obvious that you weren't being serious the moment you said that Sylvanas is smart because she is pragmatic.
I believe that Osirenne was pulling our leg with everything that was said here. That trolling attempt was pretty good as a matter of fact.
04/11/2018 21:16Posted by SylviannaYou would disagree with what he just said but then you like scumbags like Garithos who almost killed thousands of people who were not actually his enemies in a war.
Nice double standards here...at least the Night Elves in Teldrassil died against their enemy, not a former ally :P
The Blood Elves are traitors what were working with the Naga, this was when Naga were just a vermin of the seas, well they still are but you get the point. They were also given a warning before hand about working with them which they ignored. He has is justification to have them gone.
There is no double standards going on.
04/11/2018 20:49Posted by DarvingarI just wanted to say that both Saurfang and Baine are spineless weaklings for not going all out against the Alliance during WAR.
I mean, I have personally never partaken in a war, but I imagine it would be pretty easy to put your life on the line and to kill other people, so the fact that Baine and Saurfang fail to live up to my ideal of a situation I have never been in proves to me that they are cowards.
I mean, how hard can it be to put yourself in a situation in which you die? I do it all the time with my character in game and that definetly a good standard by which to judge the mental fortitude of actual warriors.
So what if we killed a million elf children? This is WAR! In WAR you are supposed to kill everyone on the other side. Sylvanas told me so, and she is pragmatic, which I think means smart. I sure as hell would not have qualms about it if I were in their shoes, so they are spineless traitors for having any doubts. I mean, who has not burned down an orphanage once or twice?
I wish we could just get rid of them, because we have so many other well-established characters that could take their place. After all, there is no place in the Horde for diferring viewpoints. Everyone should just agree with Sylvanas. That will not be boring or one-sided at all.
There is of course no way these characters create a balance and variety to the faction or that they could be critical to the story in a way I do not understand because I am not part of the creative process, and they defintely could not be developed in a manner I will ultimately enjoy in the future, so they should just be killed off, not wasting any character potental like they did with Garrosh.
Your entire existence as a faction from Cata onwards has been because the Alliance held back,because they had enough honour and restraint as well as repect for certain races and/or leaders to not wipe your pathetic faction from the face of Azeroth.
The Alilance could have dismantled,hell even destroyed the Horde after the SoO,it could have done the same after the Ashran incident in Wod, it could have done it again after the Broken Shore in Legion since majority of the campaign against the legion was done by the class halls and finally it can destroy the Horde and the Zandalari in 8.1 in a matter of weeks if the AllIance so wishes.
Be thankful little Orc that the Alliance does'nt go all out,isn't as ruthless or depraved as the Horde because if it was and this was'nt a 2 faction game the Horde would be dust.
The Horde survives because of the Alliance's mercy and because of its respect for people like Bain and Saurfang who show an alternative to the narrative that the Horde is full of war mongering emo genocidal maniacs.
It is an accurate representation of some of the fans here, Horde or otherwise.04/11/2018 21:23Posted by ZaraoIs this some caricature of an Horde fan or simple RPing?
And yes, I return from Dark Souls 3 to wave the Alliance banner flag. *Waves said flag*
dammit just read through the rest of the thread,i fell for the trolling :( :P
Darvingar!!!!
I do not know from wich clan are you but your ancestors, all of your clan would be ashamed of you. You are nothing more than a Lich Queens minion. Begone of mi sight, weakling!
I do not know from wich clan are you but your ancestors, all of your clan would be ashamed of you. You are nothing more than a Lich Queens minion. Begone of mi sight, weakling!
04/11/2018 22:52Posted by ElyssarainAnd yes, I return from Dark Souls 3 to wave the Alliance banner flag. *Waves said flag*
Now that you are back, can you confirm that massive Crabs in Dark Souls 3 are the same Crabs what killed 6 Druids in the WoT event xd?
Considering they have more armor than a Legion era Bare tank? Yes. And well, don’t forget those Druids had a modifier of something like -90% hp, -90% damage cos of ‘plot’.04/11/2018 23:08Posted by Frozenshadow04/11/2018 22:52Posted by ElyssarainAnd yes, I return from Dark Souls 3 to wave the Alliance banner flag. *Waves said flag*
Now that you are back, can you confirm that massive Crabs in Dark Souls 3 are the same Crabs what killed 6 Druids in the WoT event xd?