Instead of being paired with 4 neanderthals you are now paired with 7. With twice the amount of objectives. This bracket is insanely bad lol
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Yeah, anything unrated is the biggest pile of horse manure there is.
It is insanely garbage; absolute 60 IQ zerg players who don’t even bother to to anything, it’s wild.
Are these actual people? With lives? And sentience?
Really makes me worried for them if im being honest.
Left the guild I was in to try and get into a pvp guild; absolutely unplayable without premades.
It’s always everyone else fault than me.
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Yeah not really. At least in solo shuffle you can actually see your own mistakes and do THINGS to improve.
In blitz though, please give me an example of how am I to improve in the following scenarios, as a warrior that is:
- node map with 3 rogues in the oposing team, no pet classes, a death knight that has a total sum of 20 mil damage ad the end of the bg
- a hunter with about 15mil damage who constantly swaps the silershard mines tracks
- people rushing mid in a wsg game where the oposing team has a pres evoker, a mw monk and a guardian druid
Thats totally fine if this is just random but I’ve seen this SAME THING happening in about 80% of the past 25 games that I’ve played. Well yeah it’s low mmr… but because of this I cannot gain rating or mmr and I’m staying at that 1200-1500 range constantly.
3 wins in a row gets me to 2100 mmr lobbies. A single loss brought me back to 1600, subsequent loss and im at 1300 again.
I get what you mean and you are absolutely right, we suck and we always try to find the error in someone else’s actions but our own but I don’t think this is the case here…
MMR needs to be calculated accordingly, not on WIN/LOSS only. This is not arena, it’s not a deathmatch, its more complex, requires a more complex calculation.
I’ve been swapping builds, trying different approaches and that sometimes works, but people do not want to read/comunicate or discuss a potential action in any way…
I just want to play with people who TRY.
I played 101 games win only 32, and I have some achievements on RBG even Arenas. So all games It’s my fault?))) No, topic author saying something make sense. I like solo RBG, but MMR, rating gain/lose should be refactored somehow.
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It’s not always your fault but most of the time you probably could have done something better.
Everyone have their own game plan and gets frustrated when the others don’t see what they see.
Maybe even sometimes you where the best player in the losing team but no matter what rating even low where players does a lot of individual mistakes a lot of player seems to fail to see their own errors.
When I do battlegrounds and someone starts to whine it’s often not the best player out in the field.
But yes, maybe they could have done better match making because it’s why I stopped think it was fun doing arena, there was always someone that didn’t belonged at that rating. Just not everyone except me 
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I never whine… Pointless and do not blame other players either. I blame MMR and rating system. lose -14, win +8. 3 lose -46 (toady was) 1 win +9 and another win “unchanged”.
This is a BLIZARD! 1) Developers who can’t in math. 2) Raw very raw product (means solo RBG) 3) needs something like solo shufle. Feels fresh and new and I gain some positive progress there without suffering.
But feel me, I leave game in SL because bad PvP. Return because of anouncemnet Delves and Solo RBG. And now THIS?! WHY I PAY FOR EXPANSION and sub? So unfair…
Could it be you?
The MMR rating system works as intended. The issue of the bracket 0-1.6 is, it is just infested with PVE players, who are “playing” to get a HC tier token for 1.6 rating. Once you pass 1.6+ MMR it is quite easy to climb to 1.8.
The System or MMR or whatever is what makes it bad. I played on my Lock the first days after release. 1800+ rating.
You got pretty much many good players in your team and enemy team, because everybody wanted to play ofc.
I have an warrior alt that I play currently, and started at basically zero MMR/rating because its that boosted character from buying the expansion. First 15 BGs I went 3:12 win:lose.
So, sidenote. I play since 2005 EU release. I played a lot of PvP. Even high rated a lot of times. So, I am not a dummy PvP wise.
But you just cant make a difference when you get paired with Honor level 8 or 12 people that basically just installed the game the first time or whatever, or never played PvP ever before and have nothing achieved PvP wise and have a win:lose record of something like 11:48 in every arena bracket etc. bad gear, as they didnt even put the least amount of effort into gearing and enchants and all that stuff.
You can not win with people like this. Period. Maybe as a rogue… sure. Fine.
It also does not help when you have matches with your teams MMR around 1100-1200 and enemy team is 17xx MMR somehow. I mean… wtf is that?
So, guys. Do not doubt yourself if you have at least some XP in previous PvP seasons etc. its not just your fault. Blitz is totally like random BGs… you will get to a close 50% winrate over time, but you gotta spam A LOT of BGs for it if you do not cheat with sync queuing or as duo queue with a healer (which is like trippling your teams chances to win almost).
Complete solo? Have tons of luck or if bad luck, you need to play a lot to circumvent the bad luck. Just like random BGs.
Oh so it is “normal” then. I thought game was punishing me for low win rate.
Literal example from my alt’s last game.
https://imgur.com/a/bf9jBZD
https://imgur.com/a/vUpgIy0
Whatever it is, it’s equally likely to happen to the enemy. You are the independent variable.
The good news is you’re playing a warrior. All you need to do is zug harder. Sit on EFC, cleave during team fights. It is genuinely enough to simply pump.
Any tips on what shall I do as ENH shammy? 
Melees in general and warriors in particular are less valuable in group PvP than ranged classes, so it is not surprising that you got higher on your warlock.
I will not go too deep into the details, though I can, as I used to be the raid leader in high-rated RBGs (on my affliction warlock).
The main reason is focus and range to your healers. When melees group up to pressure the target, they are also susceptible to aoe roots and stuns.
No. Please, just stop it. I can assure you, there is no freaking way I could’ve won these matches with the same weird honor level 8 people etc. on my Warlock instead.
It has NOTHING to do with what class I played, I could have played ANY class (besides rogue maybe…) and it would’ve been a lose.
You don’t seem to understand how stupid and bad these people are, they are worse than actual bots. They run in, do nothing and die in the first 10 seconds… you can “go into detail” as much as you want, the best freaking Warrior on the planet would not win with these people.
As I said, I play the game for 20 years, very high rated many times. I know how this shiet works and all in and outs.
Thats not how it works. 90% of the time you will NOT get even teams with even rated or experienced people.
Ofc over the span of MANY games, as I already said, you will even it out with like 50% winrate. Because you will eventually get better people in your team at some point. But it doesn’t happen at the same time for an even single particular match.
Its just a frustrating experience, thats all. Its not fun. There is something really wrong when I can own up arena/shuffel with 70% winrates until certain ratings because I have actual agency in an 3v3 envrionment (no matter what class…) and then join blitz BG and you cant do shiet because people dont even know what to do in the BG objective wise.
Since i started playing BG blitz i had only positive experience i’m at 1628 and i yes you are right i did it mostly because of TOKEN
but I don’t know why but i have a lot of fun in PVP this expansion
So i’m gonna push forward
And most games i did play in blitz were positive even when i lost
yes sometimes there were people that had 0 clue about how Eye of the storm works
but people will learn longer this gamemode is out.
Yeah because after hitting 1.6 dedicated players are left, the one who came to get the HC tokens leave it.
Low exp ppl isnt the problem!
(you get them in opeosite team aswell)
PROBLEM is that we encounter Premade healer+ dps, x2
like 10 times more chance to win!
and you que solo …
(in solo RBGS btw!! hey premade in SOLO RBGS!! BRAVO BLIZZARD!!!)
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