Battleground statistics

[Utflod-gehennas]

Ok, so I have been playing quite a few battlegrounds on horde side since the release of vanilla. According to my statistics I have a total of:

508 played
166 won
342 lost

This gives a win/loss ration of 1 to 3

Further breakdown shows this:

AV games: 68
Won: 12
W/L: 18%

AB games: 158
Won: 55
W/L: 35%

EOTS games: 128
Won: 28
W/L: 22%

SOTA games: 44
Won: 26
W/L: 59%

WSG Games: 103
Won: 37
W/L: 36 %

Isle games: 17
Won: 8
W/L: 47%

I notice that the only bgs where the score is almost equal are Isle and SOTA, although I don’t have many Isle games yet, so not sure how valid those statistics are

My reason for posting this is trying to figure out what is going on. Since I feel I “have” to do at least daily BG to get the arena points, it feels kinda bad having to do 3 games every day to ensure I win. Last few months it seems even worse. I would love to say that I am just playing the BGs wrong, but I often find myself being one of the few trying for the objective. Also, one player shouldn’t be able to skew the statistics this much. So it makes me wonder:

• Is it inherently favourable to be alliance in bgs? The only BG that is 100% equal for both sides (SOTA) is actually the only BG where I have a positive W/L ratio
• Are hordes overridden with bots? I feel this issue should be equally represented on both sides
• Does alliance have a gear advantage for some reason?
• Are hordes just worse at BGS?
• Does alliance queue more in groups, favoring them to win?
• Does alliance get a favourable setup with correct damage dealers (i.e. warriors)? I often notice alliance way on top on damage score

Have anyone had any success in actually trying to lead random BGs? I tried it for a while, but there is so much hassle, and people just badmouth back

Does anyone else have some comparable statistics? If I am an outlier, it would be nice to know

[Felgar-gehennas]

The answer is that the statistics are showing false numbers. When they introduced the statistics page in wotlk, they started tracking your total games played from somewhere in classic, but only started tracking wins from recent games.
I remember checking it after wotlk launch and seeing 800+ AB games played with like 3 wins (already had over 100K hk at this point).

But the alliance does win more bgs today. Horde seems to have more bots, and many of the “serious” pvp players switched to alliance in wotlk for human racial.

[Skløttemor-mograine]

Thanks for reply! It makes sense to a certain degree that the statistics may be false due to late tracking of wins. However, the worst BG for me, aside from AV, is EOTS, with a winratio of 22%. Since this was released in TBC, would this mean that they didn’t start tracking wins until WOTLK?

[Belhus-golemagg]

Yeah, I think they started counting wins when WOTLK started. When I first looked up the statistics, I had almost no wins but hundreds of plays. So these statistics are useless now. It seems like a very amateur job, and probably there is no way to fix it now. I guess it is just a counter without any other data, so it is impossible to set on WOTLK+ only. Maybe if they have some backup database from WOTLK start, but I doubt it.

[Shadowpala-earthshaker]

611/340 here seems fine.

[Daigar-gehennas]

@Utflod-gehennas

quite a few battlegrounds on horde side since the release of vanilla

@Utflod-gehennas

508 played

It’s not that many if you consider that vanilla Classic was released over 4 years ago.
But yes, most horde players only do bgs on fresh alts in order to get welfare epics for pve, while alliance seems to do bgs more often on geared characters (hopefully for fun). Since Classic Alliance was also the more minmax/hardcore faction, they have a better percentage of actually good players that use consumables. You should have a better win rate at the start of an expansion, but after people start playing their alts you get what you have now.