I am repeating myself for the 10th time probably but we have to think about the integrity of our own community and the thing that we enjoy which is PvP by looking for our future and we have a clear example of what happens when Premades become a massive practice (during Classic+) :
People want to win more games → They start premading → Newbies and casuals get farmed for honor & marks but they can still join a Premade group-> Premades start facing other Premades → Premades realize that to up their chances they have to become more elitist meaning so now casuals and newbies cant join Premades anymore → Back at square 1 - getting farmed as a newbie / casual player → Casuals/ Newbies start to quit → No fresh blood to supply the online game that WoW obviously is → Higher end players also quit because ques are crazy long.
I know premades want to have easy wins but we all lose at the end if you just open your eyes instead of being an egotistical individual.
Yes, and this happens almost every day. The more premades there are, the more such fights there will be.
What the druid wrote above is the chain of player development in epic BGs. First you are a newbie - then you begin to understand how to play - you join a team - you join the best team - you become stronger than everyone.
A person essentially develops from birth until the end of his days, and I do not understand why you are stuck at the first stage of the game and do not want to become better. I do not judge, it is your right.
And this is clearly not Blizzard’s problem.
I’m not speaking for myself, I’m not stuck anywhere. I play mostly ranked. But I do care about new players also to some degree. I want them to play and have fun so they can improve and eventually queue ranked like I do. If you keep stomping on them, they will quit. This has happened in classic numerous times. We know what the outcome is if it doesn’t get stopped.
Counter Question: If there are statements by GMs that they know about the situation and sync queue on “3,2,1,click” isnt against the rules, more in a gray area and they dont ban thos people, will you stop your crying posts?
Synchronization - 99% wins.
Understand, friend, and realize… MMORPG is not about playing solo, if someone does not understand this - this is a problem. But this is his personal problem, and not a problem of the company or the developer. Yes, there is such a function, to queue for solo, but this does not mean that this is the main aspect of the game 40x40, where there will never be balance.
If Blizzard make a statement - and I’m talking about a new statement, not some random blue post dredged up from years ago - then of course I will act accordingly.
But no, I’m not going to stop posting about this until things change for the better (or I get bored with the whole ****show).
So, you can look forward to a lot more crying, babe.
What I’m really interested in, and I think the reason he’s avoiding answering the question, is how much he and the rest of the premaders are addicted to the cheap and nasty thrill of facestomping casuals.
I think they get off on that big time and that it’s the main reason that they do what they do.
Weak people in real life feeding off of the fantasy of being an unstoppable, unbeatable death machine in the game. I’m not judging; to some extent that’s what all RPGs and even action and superhero movies are about and we’re all guilty of indulging in it to some degree.
I just think with the premaders it moves into the pathological; in their desperation to feel powerful (and maybe also the darker sadistic pleasure of stamping on a weak person’s face) they are hurting the wider community around them.
I suppose though, in the end, their motivations are meaningless (albeit very interesting). It’s the behaviour that matters and Blizzard needs to do something about it. Either fix it or say - preferably with some explanation as to why - that they’re fine with it.
In fact, I’m happy with any scenario, I’m not afraid of anything.
I haven’t played much in the last week, I just don’t have time to play, 3-4 games a day, no more, in proud solitude.
Almost every game is a game with a leader, or with a leader and against a leader.
I lost once or twice, I ran into Larkus while playing for the Horde. Well, no big deal, these are my problems, not his. And certainly not Blizzard’s problems.
You have not answered the question as to whether you would try to premade into a strict solo queue if there was a ‘premade only’ option available (and, if you’re willing to answer honestly, its obvious follow-on question of, ‘If so, why?’
Talking to you is like talking to a politician, so you’ll be glad to hear that, whatever answer you do or don’t give, I won’t be asking any more and will just draw my own conclusions from your behaviour in-game and your unwillingness to answer honestly here.
I will just finish with my standard refrain: where epic and random bgs and premades are concerned, BLIZZARD NEEDS TO FIX THEIR DAMNED GAME!
If a handful of “enthusiasts” are trying to change a long-established constitutional order, trying to amend a constitution that has successfully worked for the benefit of the state, this ends very badly for both the president, who is the guarantor of the constitution, and for the state itself as a whole.
That’s from a GM who is clearly either using AI or who is an AI.
It’s just summarising the current situation and we all already know the current situation. So, apologies, but a message from a GM, even if they were a human, is not what I’m after; it doesn’t even qualify as being Blue Post level.
I’m talking about an official clarification of Blizzard policy dropped as a Blue Post by ‘Blizzard Entertainment’ or Kaivax (or someone at the same level) and reported on by Wowhead.
it made some people leave in dragonflight people who would of played epic bgs and did stopped because of the q syncs , for ages we only face horde premades then a certain group faction changed and now faction change back now more fill the vacum i am just in favour of solo q epic bgs. Premades bring people who exploit the queuing system in the guise of the standard premade
I think the main issue of premades is that they are syncing their BG queues, I don’t really see how a solo queue option would solve this. Wouldn’t this still create a queue they could sync?
Altho maybe abusing a solo queue would be a lot more actionable with lets say bans if they sniped that considering the implication of solo queue being intended as solo is in the name
If solo queue works similarly to blitz (as well as in the test in S1), then horde and alliance would be mixed.
Even if all players in a community receive an invitation at the same time, there would still be no guarantee that everyone would end up on the same side. This could even be an advantage for premades or those who aren’t just looking for easy and quick victories (and that’s something I wouldn’t hold against Larkus, he plays lost games to the bitter end, just like Zennie), because let’s be honest: those boring games that you win without any real resistance aren’t really fun for anyone. I only enjoy that when I want to go offline anyway.
To be honest, though, I don’t think something like this will be implemented, as PvP is too insignificant a factor in WoW. It’s a shame, but that’s the way it is, unfortunately.
Yeah, an complete slap in the face for us PvPers because all we get is some ‘remote’ island in K’aresh, oh and a recolored mount! Could definitely do a lot more but yeah…
